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0:13
(Ray Comfort)
Have you heard
of Adolf Hitler?
0:14
No.
0:15
You don't know who he is?
0:16
No.
0:17
♪♪♪
0:32
[cheering]
0:33
♪♪♪
0:39
(Adolf Hitler)
[speaking German]
0:46
♪♪♪
0:48
I'm Ray Comfort.
0:49
I'm Jewish, and I'm deeply
concerned that a generation
0:52
is forgetting one of
the greatest tragedies
0:54
in the history
of the human race.
0:57
Adolf Hitler
sanctioned the murder
0:58
of eleven million people,
1:00
including six million Jews,
through what's commonly called
1:03
the Holocaust.
1:05
In Germany, statues
of Hitler are forbidden,
1:07
and his Nazi salute
is illegal. And in Austria,
1:11
if you even deny
the Holocaust took place,
1:13
they'll throw you in jail.
1:15
Germany so wants to keep alive
the memory of that horror,
1:18
it has mandatory Holocaust
education for its children.
1:22
This is because it's
been rightly said that
1:24
those who forget history
are destined to repeat it.
1:27
(Ray Comfort)
Adolf Hitler, what do
you know about him?
1:29
He was a, um--
what's it called?
1:33
He was kind of a president.
1:36
(Ray Comfort)
What do you know
about Adolf Hitler?
1:37
I really don't know
anything about it.
1:40
(Ray Comfort)
Have you heard
of Adolf Hitler?
1:41
Um, no.
1:43
(Ray Comfort)
You never heard of him?
1:44
No.
1:45
I vaguely remember him.
1:47
(Ray Comfort)
Who was Adolf Hitler?
1:50
Um, he was the guy that's
in--was he German?
1:55
I really don't know
that much about him.
1:57
(Ray Comfort)
Who was Adolf Hitler?
1:58
Um...
2:04
uh, this guy--with a--
2:08
he had a mustache.
2:10
(Ray Comfort)
Who was Adolf Hitler?
2:12
He was a communist,
right, leader of Germany?
2:16
Who was Adolf Hitler?
2:17
I don't know.
2:18
You have no idea at all?
2:20
No.
2:21
Uh, he was a communist.
2:23
Um, is he like
a actor or someone?
2:28
He's like, something
about Holocaust.
2:30
(Ray Comfort)
So tell me what you
know about Adolf Hitler.
2:32
Uh, I don't know
anything about him.
2:34
Have you ever
heard of him?
2:35
No, I haven't.
2:37
Who's the guy
with the mustache?
2:39
Um, don't know,
I'm sorry.
2:41
(Ray Comfort)
You're about to meet Steve.
2:43
As you'll see, Steve is
a self-proclaimed neo-Nazi
2:47
who loves Adolf Hitler, hates
Jews and people of dark skin.
2:51
White people are up here,
2:53
and then there's
[bleep] and Jews.
2:55
So, the white man
is the best man.
2:57
(Ray Comfort)
What's the purpose
of man's existence?
2:59
To get drunk
and have a blue Mohawk.
3:01
What was Jesus Christ?
3:03
(Ray Comfort)
Savior of the world.
3:05
No, he was a [bleep] Jew!
3:07
And what do Jews do?
3:08
They lie!
3:09
Christianity is a Jewish trick,
but it hasn't tricked me,
3:12
because I'm Greek and
I'm smarter than that.
3:13
(Ray Comfort)
Spell the word "shop."
3:15
Shop?
S-h-o-p.
3:17
(Ray Comfort)
What do you do when
you come to a green light?
3:19
Stop.
3:20
(Ray Comfort)
Green light.
3:22
Oh. Go. [laughs]
3:23
(Ray Comfort)
See, now, if you
can make a mistake
3:24
with something
as simple as that--
3:25
[Yeah that was good.]
3:27
(Ray Comfort)
just think if you're
making a mistake
3:28
with this whole philosophy.
3:29
I'm not.
You're making a mistake!
3:30
I don't hate black people
because they're black.
3:31
I hate black people because
they're pieces of [bleep],
3:33
because they ruin every
[bleep] neighborhood
3:36
they come into, because
they do bad things
3:38
to my people because of
the color of our skin.
3:40
This country is [bleep],
and I hate America.
3:42
America is run by a bunch
of little weak [bleep] Jews
3:44
that were like, that couldn't
stand up for themselves,
3:47
so they had to make up
a fake God to protect them,
3:49
because they're a weak race.
3:50
Jesus was a Jew,
3:52
and if He were in Auschwitz,
I'd give Him a tattoo.
3:54
Adolf Hitler was not evil.
3:56
(Ray Comfort)
So, what do you
have to do to be evil?
3:58
He killed six million Jews,
and blacks, and gypsies,
4:00
and homosexuals.
4:01
I don't believe that;
I think that's a lie.
4:04
I don't think he killed
that many people.
4:05
I love Hitler.
4:06
(Ray Comfort)
Why?
4:08
Because he wanted to cleanse
the world of non-white races.
4:17
(Ray Comfort)
Don't you think
he was evil?
4:18
Evil?
No, no.
4:20
Who was Adolf Hitler?
4:21
The leader of the Nazis.
4:24
He ran the fascist movement
in World War II, right?
4:28
Good guy, bad guy?
4:29
He was intelligent, but he was-- what he was doing was bad.
4:32
(Ray Comfort)
Have you heard
of Adolf Hitler?
4:34
Yes.
Yeah.
4:35
(Ray Comfort)
What did he do?
4:37
He killed a lot of people and
tried to take over the world.
4:40
(Ray Comfort)
Good guy or bad guy?
4:41
Bad!
4:43
(Ray Comfort)
I've got to ask
you this question.
4:44
It's not a racist question,
4:45
but are you German?
4:47
Bin ein Deutschlander.
5:40
And do you know what Hitler
said, is he said Christianity
5:42
is a nice religion,
but let's let it die out.
5:45
He put the Jewish people
in concentration camps.
5:48
And he basically brainwashed
the whole German civilization
5:51
into believing
that Jews were evil,
5:53
and he needed to
get rid of them.
5:55
He started World War II.
5:57
(Ray Comfort)
It's 1939, you've got
a high-powered rifle,
5:59
and Adolf Hitler
is in your sights.
6:01
Do you take him out?
6:02
(female)
Absolutely.
6:04
(Ray Comfort)
Okay, so you
didn't hesitate.
6:05
Would you take him out?
6:07
Yes.
6:08
(Ray Comfort)
Okay, it's about
30 years earlier.
6:11
Mrs. Hitler is
pregnant with Adolf.
6:13
Would you take her out?
6:15
If I knew what
he was going to do?
6:18
(Ray Comfort)
Mmm-hmm.
6:19
Yeah.
6:20
(Ray Comfort)
Would you shoot him?
6:28
(Ray Comfort)
If you go back
30 years earlier,
6:30
and Adolf Hitler's mother
is pregnant with Adolf,
6:33
and you've got
a high-powered rifle,
6:36
and you had got one shot,
would you take him out?
6:38
Would you kill
her to kill him?
6:53
(Ray Comfort)
Did he kill
millions of Russians?
7:16
(Ray Comfort)
Did you lose any relatives?
7:26
♪♪♪
7:41
♪♪♪
7:57
♪♪♪
8:03
(Ray Comfort)
Adolf Hitler
hated Christianity.
8:05
He called it a disease
and once said,
8:08
"The heaviest blow
which ever struck humanity
8:11
was Christianity,"
8:12
adding that it was
an invention of the Jew.
8:14
He killed or imprisoned
genuine pastors
8:16
and replaced them
with his own Nazi pastors.
8:19
He also replaced
the cross with a swastika,
8:22
printed 100,000 copies
of his own twisted Bible,
8:25
rewrote the Ten Commandments,
8:27
and then created his own Aryan,
anti-Semitic, non-Jewish Jesus.
8:31
But most importantly,
all this sprung from the fact
8:35
that Hitler had created
his own image of God
8:37
and was what the Bible
calls an idolater.
8:40
He had another god
before the God of the Bible.
8:43
Like Judas Iscariot,
he professed to be a follower
8:46
of Jesus of Nazareth,
but his motive was for
8:49
his own evil agenda, and
that agenda was very clear.
8:53
He said, "He alone who owns
the youth gains the future."
8:59
Adolf Hitler deceived
the youth of Germany.
9:01
He deceived many within
the traditional church.
9:04
But most of all,
9:06
he deceived the millions of Germans who believed his lie
9:08
about the supremacy
of the German race.
9:12
♪♪♪
9:18
(Ray Comfort)
History tells us of
one man who was present
9:20
when the Nazis killed
1,600 Jews on April 6, 1942.
9:24
He witnessed them being shot
and then being buried alive.
9:28
(male #1)
I saw them do the killing.
9:32
At 5:00 p.m.,
they gave the command,
9:35
"Fill in the pits."
9:37
Screams and groans
were coming from the pits.
9:43
Suddenly, I saw my
neighbor Ruderman
9:46
rise from under the soil.
9:47
His eyes were bloody,
and he was screaming,
9:50
"Finish me off!"
9:53
A murdered woman
lay at my feet.
9:57
A boy of five years crawled out
from under her body
10:01
and began to scream
desperately, "Mommy!"
10:06
That was all I saw,
since I feel unconscious.
10:14
(Ray Comfort)
It's 1943, a German officer
10:17
has pointed a machine gun
at you and told you
10:19
to get in a bulldozer
and drive it forward.
10:20
You look in front of you. There's a big pit.
10:22
Hundreds of Jewish
families have been shot,
10:25
and they're in the pit.
10:26
Many of them are dead, but
some of them are still alive.
10:28
He's telling you
to bury them alive.
10:31
[Gasps.]
10:33
(Ray Comfort)
You know that if you say no,
he's just going to say okay,
10:34
and shoot you
with his machine gun.
10:36
Oh, my goodness.
10:37
(Ray Comfort)
Okay, and someone else
is going to do it.
10:38
He's going to do it.
10:39
Would you do what he says?
10:40
I don't know.
10:42
Wow, I think that's
a powerful question.
10:44
(Ray Comfort)
If you do what he says,
he's going to let you live.
10:46
Would you drive
the bulldozer forward?
10:48
No.
10:49
No.
10:50
(Ray Comfort)
Why not?
10:51
They're going to die anyway.
10:52
Because I'd rather die
not doing that,
10:54
knowing that I was the cause.
10:56
(Ray Comfort)
Would you drive
the bulldozer?
10:57
Absolutely not.
10:58
I think I would do it forward
only because of the fear
11:05
of my own life and fearing
that I have no other choice.
11:09
(Ray Comfort)
Would you do what he says?
11:11
Absolutely.
11:12
I would not.
11:13
(Ray Comfort)
What about you?
11:14
Would you drive it forward?
11:15
No, I would take the shot.
11:16
(Ray Comfort)
Would you do what he says?
11:17
Probably, yes.
11:18
(Ray Comfort)
You'd just bury those Jews?
11:19
Yeah, if it was me
or if it was my life,
11:23
I would probably
do that, yeah.
11:25
I'd do it.
11:27
(Ray Comfort)
Okay, let's say that
the soldier said to you,
11:28
"Look, I don't want you
to bury these people alive.
11:30
I'm just going to
give you my gun,
11:31
and you just finish
them all off.
11:33
Just shoot them."
11:34
Would you do that?
11:35
Nah, that would
be harder to do.
11:36
Yeah, that would be something--
11:37
(Ray Comfort)
It's almost more merciful
11:39
to be shot than buried alive,
don't you think?
11:41
Oh, I think so, yeah.
11:43
(Ray Comfort)
So, you wouldn't shoot them,
but you'd bury them?
11:45
Yeah.
11:46
(Ray Comfort)
What's the difference?
11:48
Because I would think that
most of them would be dead.
11:49
That would be the--
11:50
(Ray Comfort)
But there's some still alive.
11:52
Yeah, I would probably try
to put that out of my mind.
11:55
(Ray Comfort)
Would you do what he says?
11:57
Absolutely not.
11:58
He may as well shoot me.
11:59
(Ray Comfort)
If he said, "Take my gun.
12:01
We've got a dozen officers
pointing their guns at you.
12:04
I want you to
shoot those Jews."
12:05
No, dude, no, no.
12:07
(Ray Comfort)
So, you wouldn't shoot them?
12:08
Nah, I don't like--
12:09
(Ray Comfort)
But you'd bury them?
12:09
If--
12:11
Well, then, I would probably
do it just to save myself
12:15
and my family.
12:17
(Ray Comfort)
If he said to you, "I want
you to take this machine gun
12:20
and finish those Jews off,"
would you do that?
12:22
No, I wouldn't kill anybody.
12:23
I couldn't do it.
12:25
(Ray Comfort)
But you're
burying them alive,
12:26
which is worse than
being shot with a bullet.
12:29
You're killing me, man.
12:31
That's a tough decision.
12:33
(Ray Comfort)
Would you do what he wants?
12:36
(Ray Comfort)
You'd just drive it forward?
12:37
You wouldn't hesitate?
12:39
(Ray Comfort)
Would you drive it forward?
12:41
No.
12:42
No, I would not.
12:43
(Ray Comfort)
Would you do what he wants?
12:44
No.
12:45
(Ray Comfort)
Why not?
12:46
Well, for one, that's
not morally right to me.
12:49
What can one person do,
if just that one person
12:52
got out of the bulldozer?
12:53
You know what I mean?
12:55
Like, then their
life is gone, too.
12:58
It's that everyone needed to
rise up against him, you know?
13:01
And I think that's what
a lot of people were--
13:04
where was the world,
you know?
13:05
Where was everybody?
You know?
13:07
(Ray Comfort)
Maybe everybody is made up
of individuals that would say,
13:09
"I could never bury
human beings alive.
13:12
I'd rather die than do that."
13:13
Do you value life?
13:14
Of course.
13:16
(Ray Comfort)
So, you wouldn't
take a human life?
13:17
You value human life?
13:19
(male #2)
Yeah.
13:21
(Ray Comfort)
How do you feel
about abortion?
13:22
(male #2)
Mmm, it all depends.
13:25
That's a tricky subject.
13:27
(Ray Comfort)
Sounds like you
value human life.
13:30
I do value human life.
13:31
(Ray Comfort)
Alicia, how do you
feel about abortion?
13:36
Uh...
13:41
I feel that, um, it's
a woman's right to choose,
13:45
and every situation is
a different situation.
13:48
I'm for abortion.
13:49
You know, that's
a tricky situation.
13:51
I am pro-life, but you know,
until you're--it's really easy
13:55
from the outside to say
I'm going to do this,
13:58
and I'm going to do that,
13:59
but until you're actually
in that situation,
14:02
there's no saying
what you will do.
14:03
I mean, it's really--
14:05
(Ray Comfort)
If you're pro-life, do you
believe it's a baby in the womb?
14:07
Absolutely, yes.
14:08
(Ray Comfort)
When does it become a life?
14:09
Well, it kind of
does at the start,
14:12
but it's not as much until
after three months.
14:14
(Ray Comfort)
This is actual footage
of a baby in the womb
14:17
at just six weeks,
six days of age.
14:19
You can clearly see the baby's
eyes, hands, and heartbeat.
14:23
There's a fetus
there, not a baby.
14:25
(Ray Comfort)
You don't think it's a baby?
14:26
Not yet, not
until three months.
14:28
(Ray Comfort)
Do you think it's
a baby in the womb?
14:30
Yes.
14:32
(Ray Comfort)
Okay, finish this
sentence for me, okay?
14:34
It's okay to kill
a baby in the womb when--
14:39
I don't know.
14:41
(Ray Comfort)
Do you think it's
a baby in the womb?
14:42
Yeah.
14:44
Yeah.
14:45
(Ray Comfort)
Okay, finish this
sentence for me:
14:47
It's okay to kill
a baby in the womb when--
14:50
If it comes from something
that shouldn't have happened.
14:54
(Ray Comfort)
When does it become a life?
14:56
That's a tough one.
14:59
(Ray Comfort)
Here's a question,
if you're in doubt.
15:01
Okay, I'm
a construction worker,
15:04
and I see a building,
and I say to you,
15:05
"I'm just going to blow up
that building in a minute.
15:08
There's a possibility
there's somebody in there.
15:10
I just don't know, but I'm
going to blow it up anyway."
15:13
What would you say to me?
15:15
I'm not sure if there's life
in that building or not,
15:17
but I'm going to
blow it up anyway.
15:18
Have you had an abortion?
15:19
Actually, yes, I have.
15:21
(Ray Comfort)
Do you feel guilty about it?
15:22
No.
15:24
(Ray Comfort)
What justifies the killing
of a baby in a womb?
15:26
If you can't support
it when it comes out.
15:28
I think it's
better to have a plan.
15:30
I think it's--you know, if
you're going to do something
15:32
like that, you should definitely
give it much, much more thought.
15:34
It's not something you should,
you know, just lightly say,
15:37
"Oh, well, let's
just go do it."
15:39
You know?
15:41
(Ray Comfort)
Can you see that's
like saying, "Look,
15:42
before you bury
those Jews alive,
15:43
just give it some thought
and then bury them alive"?
15:45
Ah.
15:47
(Ray Comfort)
Can you see the--
15:48
Yeah, I see where
you're going with this.
15:50
I guess you could say it's
kind of the same thing.
15:53
(Ray Comfort)
Here's you, Frank.
15:55
You would give your life
for Jews who were going to
15:57
die anyway, and yet you
won't speak up against
15:59
the murder of children
in the womb.
16:01
I would like you to
say that is wrong
16:04
to kill a child in the womb.
16:05
The safest place on earth
is a mother's womb.
16:07
And to actually go in there
and destroy a human life.
16:10
Why?
16:11
For selfish reasons.
16:12
Well, depending,
I guess, right?
16:14
I mean, it would
depend on the reasons.
16:16
(Ray Comfort)
Well, tell me a reason for
killing a baby in the womb.
16:17
Well, I mean, you
know, if it's rape
16:20
or something like that.
16:21
You know what I mean?
16:22
Which is, I know, a tough
decision, but that's mentally,
16:24
you know, for--
16:25
(Ray Comfort)
Why is it tough?
16:26
Why would you kill the baby
for the crime of the father?
16:27
Which is worse,
murder or rape?
16:29
You're murdering a child,
taking another life
16:31
because of the crime
of the father.
16:33
Who knows when life begins?
16:34
I wouldn't know.
16:36
(Ray Comfort)
Do you think God
knows when life begins?
16:37
I think yeah, probably.
16:39
(Ray Comfort)
And do you know what
the Sixth Commandment is?
16:41
No, no.
16:42
(Ray Comfort)
It says, "You shall not kill."
16:44
So you should say it's
never right to kill a child
16:45
in the womb. And Hitler
declared Jews as non-humans,
16:50
and that's what you're
doing when you're saying,
16:53
"That's not a baby
until three months.
16:54
That's what I think."
16:55
It's very subjective.
16:57
And if you're not sure,
it's taking a terrible risk
16:59
with somebody else's life.
17:01
Imagine if someone said that
about you when you were
17:03
just three months old,
and they decided to kill you
17:06
because of selfish reasons.
17:08
I wouldn't want
other people to judge me,
17:10
so I wouldn't want to do
that to other people.
17:12
So whatever their
decision is, you know,
17:13
it's between them and God.
17:16
It's their baby.
17:17
(Ray Comfort)
Whose baby?
17:19
The mother.
17:20
(Ray Comfort)
She's got the right to kill it?
17:22
If she can't--if she feels she
can't take care of it or she--
17:26
(Ray Comfort)
So that's the criteria.
17:27
I can't take care of this.
17:28
It's going to
interfere with my life.
17:29
I'll kill it.
17:31
Yes.
17:32
(Ray Comfort)
Wow.
17:34
[rewind sound]
17:35
(Ray Comfort)
Do you value human life?
17:37
Yeah.
17:38
(Ray Comfort)
Are you a Christian?
17:39
Um, in a sense.
17:42
I believe in God completely.
17:43
(Ray Comfort)
So what's
the Sixth Commandment?
17:45
I don't know.
17:47
(Ray Comfort)
"You shall not kill."
17:48
Why would you advocate
the murder of a child
17:51
in the womb,
if you know God says,
17:52
"You shall not kill"?
17:54
You should be dogmatically
against the killing of children
17:58
in the womb.
17:59
It's the safest place on
earth, a woman's womb.
18:01
So why would you say it's okay
to kill children in the womb?
18:04
There's no way that you're
going to change my opinion
18:07
on this, because I believe
it is a woman's choice.
18:10
I just, I personally
would not do it,
18:12
but I believe it
should be a choice.
18:14
You know, there's all
sorts of medical problems.
18:15
There's all sorts of birth
defects, whatever, so you know
18:17
that their quality of life
is going to be pretty much
18:19
restrained into
a 9 x 9 hospital room.
18:22
(Ray Comfort)
So, you're saying--
18:23
Do you really think that it's
fair to kind of live that--
18:25
I mean, what type of
quality of life is that?
18:27
(Ray Comfort)
The Nazis are
in front of you.
18:29
They're going to kill
kids with Downs Syndrome.
18:32
They're going to kill them all.
18:33
They did this.
18:34
Uh-huh.
18:36
(Ray Comfort)
Do you think
that's okay then?
18:36
No, absolutely not.
18:38
(Ray Comfort)
They've got
a bad quality of life.
18:39
Definitely not.
18:40
And who's to say that they
have a bad quality of life?
18:42
There's no possible way
that that child would have
18:43
a good life, so why raise that
child to have a bad life?
18:46
(Ray Comfort)
How can you make that judgment
when the child is not born?
18:49
Um--
18:51
(Ray Comfort)
I could say that
about any child.
18:52
This child could
have a bad life.
18:53
I think I'll kill it.
18:55
What about you?
18:57
It's okay to kill
a baby in the womb when--
18:58
Um, when you're
really messed up,
19:02
and you're about to beat
that kid or something.
19:04
(Ray Comfort)
We're talking about
a holocaust in America,
19:06
in our country that's
sanctioned by the government.
19:10
Do you think it's okay
to kill kids in the womb?
19:12
I don't think it's okay.
19:13
I just don't think that, um--
19:16
(Ray Comfort)
But isn't that like what
Nazi Germany was about?
19:18
It's like saying, "What
Hitler did was wrong.
19:21
I think it's his choice.
19:22
I don't think it's okay,
but he did it,
19:24
and it was his choice to do so,
19:26
and he had the sanction
of the German people, because
19:28
they allowed him in. And so
it's okay, but even though,
19:30
you know,
I don't agree with it."
19:32
Can you see it's
a similar thing?
19:34
Uh, I guess when
you put it like that,
19:36
it is very similar, yeah.
19:38
It's very similar to say that--
I guess me saying that it's okay
19:42
for someone to choose is
the same thing as saying
19:44
it's okay for Hitler to choose.
19:46
(Ray Comfort)
So are you going to
change your stance on it?
19:47
Yeah, it's definitely,
19:49
it's definitely
making me think, yeah.
19:50
(Ray Comfort)
I'd like you to feel
like you would in Germany,
19:52
when Jews were being
killed all around you.
19:53
You'd be horrified.
19:55
And we've got a holocaust in
America where real babies
19:58
are being murdered because
of a woman's choice,
20:00
and it's legal.
20:01
It's like Nazi Germany.
20:03
He did it legally.
20:04
He didn't do anything
legally wrong.
20:06
But I think, in some
situations, it can be necessary.
20:09
I think--
20:11
(Ray Comfort)
Do you think it's
a baby in the womb?
20:12
Yeah.
20:14
(Ray Comfort)
So finish this
sentence off for me.
20:16
Killing a baby in
the womb is okay when--
20:19
Oh, there we go.
20:22
Never.
20:24
(Ray Comfort)
Brittany, I noticed
you called it a child.
20:25
So finish this
sentence for me.
20:29
It's okay to kill
a child in the womb when--
20:33
Well.
20:36
Maybe it's just okay if
you adopt it out and
20:40
just not keep it, 'cause if
somebody is not ready for it--
20:43
(Ray Comfort)
So you're saying that
you're changing your mind
20:45
about abortion right now?
20:47
Yeah, yes, yes.
20:48
It sounds bad when you put
it in that kind of words.
20:53
(Ray Comfort)
Would you ever vote
for someone who was
20:55
for the killing of
children in the womb?
20:57
No.
20:58
(Ray Comfort)
Well, that's great.
20:59
So, have you just changed
your mind about abortion?
21:01
Yeah. It's not something
I've thought about much,
21:03
but I figured if I was ever in
a situation like that, I'd just
21:06
give it up for adoption if I
couldn't take care of it myself,
21:08
so--
21:09
But I've never really
thought about it like that,
21:11
I guess.
21:13
(Ray Comfort)
Isn't that great to
give it up for adoption
21:13
instead of killing it?
21:15
Yeah.
21:16
(Ray Comfort)
It's a wonderful
option, adoption.
21:18
And just as you felt strongly
about the life of Jews,
21:21
and we needed to rise up as one
person and speak against it,
21:24
don't you think
we need to do that
21:26
when it comes to
the issue of abortion?
21:28
I think you have
a valid point there.
21:30
I never paralleled those two.
21:32
(Ray Comfort)
The Holocaust and abortion?
21:35
Yeah. Yeah.
21:36
I feel like it should be
allowed, because it is a choice,
21:39
but I feel like I
personally would not do it.
21:41
It's just--
21:44
(Ray Comfort)
So you wouldn't kill Jews,
21:46
but it's okay for
someone else to kill them?
21:48
Yes.
21:50
(Ray Comfort)
So what would you say to
someone like you in Germany
21:51
that says, "Well,
you should never kill Jews,
21:54
but I think people should
have the right to do it."
21:56
I don't think--oh.
21:58
(Ray Comfort)
Because that's what you said.
22:00
Yeah, that is
what I said,
22:01
huh? Okay.
22:03
(Ray Comfort)
So have you just changed
your mind about abortion?
22:05
Yes, I've just changed
my mind about abortion.
22:06
(Ray Comfort)
So are you going to vote
differently in the future
22:07
when you do vote?
22:08
Yeah.
22:09
(Ray Comfort)
Do you mean that?
22:11
Yeah.
22:12
So are you changing
your mind about abortion?
22:14
Yeah, when you put it that
way, it does change your mind.
22:15
It's never okay to
kill a baby in the womb.
22:18
(Ray Comfort)
Okay, so are you going to
change your mind
22:19
about abortion?
22:20
Yes, I am.
22:22
(Ray Comfort)
Are you going to vote
differently in the future?
22:23
Yes, vote against abortion.
22:25
(Ray Comfort)
It's okay to kill
a baby in the womb when--
22:28
In my heart,
I would say never.
22:30
(Ray Comfort)
So have you just changed
your mind about abortion?
22:33
Yes, I have.
22:35
(Ray Comfort)
Do you think it's
a baby in the womb?
22:36
Yes.
22:38
(Ray Comfort)
So, what justification
is there for killing
22:40
a baby in the womb?
22:42
Can you think of one?
22:46
Um, for killing
a baby in the womb--
22:51
Um, well, I think everyone's
situation is--
22:54
(Ray Comfort)
Give me a situation
where you could say,
22:57
"Yep, that's justifiable.
22:58
You can kill that
baby because of--"
23:01
Um...
23:06
you know what?
23:07
I can't think of one.
23:14
♪♪♪
23:18
(Ray Comfort)
Adolf Hitler hated
the Ten Commandments
23:20
and wanted to free
people from them.
23:22
He called the Commandments
the curse of Mount Sinai
23:25
and said that the God of
the Bible was a tyrant
23:27
who tells us to do the things
we don't want to do.
23:30
Clearly, Hitler didn't
like the thought of
23:32
"You shall not kill,"
23:33
because it didn't fit into
his hate-filled worldview.
23:36
Although he's an extreme
example, it's common practice
23:39
to have a low moral standard
when we free ourselves
23:41
from the Ten Commandments
or when we're unaware
23:43
of their true meaning.
23:46
It's encouraging to
realize that people
23:48
are willing to change their minds about abortion.
23:51
When people see things from
a different perspective,
23:53
they're able to think
clearly and often make
23:55
honest, intelligent choices.
23:57
As I spoke with people
about abortion,
23:59
our conversation often
led to the issue of morals,
24:01
where morals came from,
24:03
and ultimately the issue
of the afterlife.
24:06
Hey, what happens
after someone dies?
24:07
Do you think there's a heaven?
24:09
Sure, we're going
to go to heaven.
24:10
Yes, sir.
24:11
No, I think that
that was something,
24:13
like heaven and hell are
just kind of made up.
24:15
(Ray Comfort)
Are you afraid of dying?
24:16
No, I'm not afraid of death.
24:18
Where are you
going when you die?
24:19
At the moment, hell.
24:21
(Ray Comfort)
Steven, what do you
think happens when someone dies?
24:23
Do you think there's
an afterlife?
24:25
Uh, I don't know, probably not.
24:28
(Ray Comfort)
Probably not?
24:29
So, this is all there is?
24:31
I think so, yeah.
24:32
(Ray Comfort)
Do you believe God exists?
24:35
I don't think so, no.
24:37
(Ray Comfort)
If there is a heaven,
do you think you'd get there?
24:38
Are you a good person?
24:39
Oh, yeah, for sure.
24:40
God wouldn't be mad at me.
24:42
I'm a good person morally.
24:43
Yeah, I'm a good person.
24:45
I'd hope so.
24:46
Yes, sir.
24:47
I believe in God.
24:48
I believe in good.
24:49
I don't do nobody no harm.
24:50
(Ray Comfort)
If there's a heaven,
24:51
do you think you're good
enough to go there?
24:52
Are you a good person?
24:53
Yeah, I think
I'm a good person.
24:55
(Ray Comfort)
Why would you go to hell?
24:57
Because of my
lifestyle I'm living.
24:58
There is no hell.
25:00
I don't believe that
there is a judgment.
25:01
(Ray Comfort)
You don't?
25:02
No, I don't believe that.
25:04
(Ray Comfort)
Then what's going to happen
to Hitler on Judgment Day?
25:05
He's in hell.
25:06
(Ray Comfort)
How many lies have
you told in your life?
25:08
Oh [bleep],
I don't know.
25:10
Thousands, I guess.
25:11
Lies, lies?
25:14
Too many to count.
25:15
Oh, countless.
25:17
(Ray Comfort)
What do you call someone
who tells countless lies?
25:19
A liar?
25:20
(Ray Comfort)
Have you ever stolen something?
25:21
In my lifetime?
25:22
(Ray Comfort)
Mmm-hmm.
25:23
Sure, of course, yeah.
25:24
Uh, yes.
25:25
Sure.
25:27
(Ray Comfort)
What do you call
someone who steals things?
25:28
A thief.
25:29
(Ray Comfort)
So what are you?
25:30
A liar and a thief.
25:32
(Ray Comfort)
Have you ever used
God's name in vain?
25:33
Absolutely.
25:34
Sure have.
25:35
Absolutely, [bleep].
25:36
(Ray Comfort)
Have you ever used
God's name in vain?
25:38
Yes.
25:40
(Ray Comfort)
I heard you use
His name just before,
25:41
probably about 30 seconds ago
when you talked about lying.
25:43
Do you realize that's called
blasphemy when you use
25:45
God's name as a cuss word?
25:47
It's very serious.
25:48
Sure, I guess it is, yeah.
25:50
(Ray Comfort)
Now Jesus said, "If you look
at a woman and lust for her,
25:52
you commit adultery with
her in your heart."
25:55
Have you ever done that,
looked at a woman with lust?
25:57
Shoot me now.
25:58
Yes, sir.
26:00
Yeah.
26:01
I like fornicating.
26:02
It's fun.
26:04
(Ray Comfort)
Yeah, well, you can like
raping and bank robbery.
26:05
It can be fun,
but it's not right.
26:06
Have you ever looked
at a guy with lust?
26:08
No, I'm gay.
26:09
I commit adultery about
every two minutes maybe.
26:12
(Ray Comfort)
Have you ever
looked with lust?
26:16
Yes.
26:17
Yes.
26:19
(Ray Comfort)
So, Alicia, by your own
admission, you're a lying,
26:21
blasphemous adulterer at heart,
and you've got to face God on
26:23
Judgment Day, and we've looked
at four of the Ten Commandments.
26:25
Oh, my goodness!
26:26
(Ray Comfort)
You had sex out of marriage?
26:27
Yep.
26:29
(Ray Comfort)
So, listen to this, David.
26:30
This is why you don't
want to believe in God.
26:32
You're a self-admitted lying,
thieving, blasphemous adulterer,
26:33
fornicator--
26:35
Uh-huh.
26:37
And you have to face God on
Judgment Day. And the thought
26:38
of being morally responsible
to Him is abhorrent to you,
26:40
so you deny His existence.
26:41
Does that make sense?
26:43
Yeah, it makes total sense.
26:44
(Ray Comfort)
So, John, you're in big
trouble on Judgment Day.
26:46
By your own admission, you're
a lying thief, a blasphemer,
26:49
adulterer at heart,
and a fornicator.
26:51
Wow, that's a lot.
26:52
(Ray Comfort)
So, will you go
to heaven or hell?
26:54
From the way it sounds, hell.
26:56
(Ray Comfort)
Does that concern you?
26:57
Absolutely.
26:58
No, no, no, no, no, no.
26:59
You've got it all wrong.
27:01
Guilty.
27:02
(Ray Comfort)
Would you go
to heaven or hell?
27:03
Hell.
27:04
(Ray Comfort)
Does that concern you?
27:06
Yeah!
27:08
(Ray Comfort)
So does it concern you
that if you died today
27:10
and God gave you justice,
you'd end up in hell?
27:11
Not really, no.
27:13
Well, don't try
to change me around.
27:14
I am the way I am, and
I don't give a [bleep].
27:16
(Ray Comfort)
You'll be guilty of
breaking the commandments.
27:18
So does it concern you that
if you died today,
27:20
you'd end up in hell?
27:23
Yes.
27:24
(Ray Comfort)
So you're starting
to think about your life
27:26
and how valuable it is?
27:27
Yes.
27:29
(Ray Comfort)
Does it concern you
that if you died today
27:30
and God gave you justice,
you'd end up in hell?
27:34
I think God's a loving God,
27:36
and I think He
would see my heart.
27:41
(Ray Comfort)
You know, He does, and He
sees a liar, and a blasphemer,
27:44
and an adulterer at heart.
27:46
But if you're repentant,
27:48
there's something
you can actually do,
27:50
because of God's kindness,
to have all your sins forgiven.
27:54
Do you know what God did
for sinners, any idea?
27:59
He sent His Son,
Jesus Christ,
28:01
to the earth to, um, die on
the cross for the sinners.
28:07
(Ray Comfort)
So if God judges you by
the Ten Commandments on the
28:10
Day of Judgment, do you think
you'd be innocent or guilty?
28:12
Guilty.
28:13
(Ray Comfort)
Heaven or hell?
28:14
Hell.
28:15
(Ray Comfort)
Does that concern you?
28:17
Yes, it does somewhat.
28:20
(Ray Comfort)
You know, God gave
you a conscience,
28:22
so you know right from wrong.
28:24
You know it's wrong to lie,
and steal, and fornicate,
28:26
and blaspheme.
28:27
It's written on your heart.
28:29
Right.
28:31
(Ray Comfort)
Do you understand the legal
implications of what He did?
28:31
God's a judge.
28:33
In His eyes, you're guilty,
because you violated His law,
28:34
the Ten Commandments.
28:36
You're heading for a place
called hell, God's prison,
28:37
without parole,
but Jesus stepped in
28:39
and paid your fine
on that cross.
28:41
That means God can legally
dismiss your case,
28:44
because your fine
was paid for by another.
28:47
I don't know, don't you
think it's funny, though,
28:48
that God would put
a nice guy like me in hell?
28:51
(Ray Comfort)
But a criminal might say
that to a judge, but the judge
28:53
will do that which is right,
even if it's a nice guy.
28:55
If he's raped and murdered,
28:56
he's going to get
the book thrown at him.
28:58
And you've violated God's law.
28:59
Even though you might be a nice
guy, you're a self-admitted
29:01
lying thief, blasphemer,
adulterer at heart.
29:03
God will give you justice,
but He's not willing
29:05
that any perish.
29:07
He's given you something that
says, "I don't want to die."
29:09
Listen to it, man.
29:11
You've got a cross in
the middle of your eyes.
29:12
Think about what Jesus
did on that cross.
29:14
Think about how much God
cares about sinners,
29:17
that He would do that.
29:18
And in the Bible verse,
29:19
"For God so loved the world
29:21
that He gave
His only begotten Son,
29:22
that whoever believes in Him
29:23
should not perish
but have everlasting life."
29:26
Then He rose from the dead.
29:27
And what you've
got to do is repent,
29:29
turn from your sins,
trust in Jesus.
29:30
God will give you
everlasting life.
29:31
He'll forgive your sins.
29:32
Does that make sense?
29:34
Yes, sir.
29:36
(Ray Comfort)
And the thing that will
save you is God's goodness,
29:38
the Savior, Jesus.
29:40
He's like a parachute.
29:41
Turning to a parachute
won't save you,
29:43
but putting it on will.
29:45
And the moment you put
on the Lord Jesus Christ,
29:46
the minute you put
your trust in Him, Alicia,
29:48
God will forgive your sins, dismiss your case,
29:50
and grant you the gift
of everlasting life.
29:53
God will forgive our sins,
including abortion,
29:56
and grant us the gift
of everlasting life.
29:59
Does that make sense?
30:00
Yes.
30:01
(Ray Comfort)
Do you have a Bible at home?
30:02
Yes.
30:03
(Ray Comfort)
Are you going to
think about this?
30:04
Yes.
30:05
(Ray Comfort)
So, if you died today
and God gave you justice,
30:06
you'd end up in hell.
30:08
There are two things you
have to do to be saved.
30:09
You've got to repent,
not just confess your sins,
30:12
but turn from them, and
trust alone in Jesus Christ.
30:14
When do you think
you'll do that?
30:21
Well, probably
as soon as possible.
30:25
Wouldn't everybody?
30:27
(Ray Comfort)
Do you have a Bible at home?
30:28
Yeah, I've got
a Bible at home.
30:30
(Ray Comfort)
Well, would you
please think about this?
30:32
Yeah, of course, sure, sure.
30:33
Why not?
30:35
Shortly after the war had
ended, the American military
30:37
made those living near
the concentration camps
30:39
go through them.
30:40
They wanted them to see
firsthand what had caused
30:42
the smoke to billow from
the chimneys of those camps
30:45
and to witness what
the leaders that
30:47
they had allowed
into power had done.
30:50
Notice their lighthearted
demeanor as they
30:52
entered the camp, obviously
unaware as to the horror
30:55
that had taken place
in their own backyard.
30:58
And look at the change on their
faces once they realized
31:01
what had actually taken place.
31:06
No doubt there's
an abortion clinic near you.
31:08
Perhaps you should pay them
a visit to see what actually
31:11
takes place behind their
walls, so that you can witness
31:14
firsthand what's happening
in your own backyard.
31:20
Over 50 million human beings
have been murdered
31:23
in America's holocaust,
sanctioned by political leaders
31:27
who've been put into power
by the American people.
31:30
Please never, ever give
your vote to any politician
31:33
who advocates the murder
of a child in the womb.
31:38
So, are you going to vote
differently and think
31:40
differently about this?
31:41
Yeah, I think I would.
31:42
I think I definitely would,
because you're right.
31:46
I had just said
about the Holocaust,
31:47
where was the world?
31:49
If everyone would have banded
together, you know,
31:51
make a difference.
31:56
I couldn't have said
it better than Alicia.
31:58
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FunVax - Virus To Destroy Religious Belief



FunVax is a Government made viral vaccine that "cures" religious fundamentalism. It inhibits VMAT2 the so called "God Gene" which causes people to be prone to have spiritual experiences. Although FunVax has brought stability to several countries in the Middle East and is currently responsible for the pro-democracy rallies through out the Middle East we believe that it is a dangerous precedent for the future. We also worry about FunVax spreading to Western Countries and disrupting the belief system in the US and Europe. Joey Lambardi originally leaked this information and is planning on making all his evidence available to the public using our website at www.FunVax.wordpress.com


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Islamic law, or Shariah, already is being applied in the U.S. court system Read more: Look who's deciding American court cases

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Look who's deciding American court cases

Many being decided by edicts from Muhammad

By Michael Carl
Islamic law being applied (Image from Thomas More Law Center)

Islamic law, or Shariah, already is being applied in the U.S. court system, according to an extensive new report.

A recent Center for Security Policy study called "Shariah Law and American State Courts: An Assessment of State Appellate Court Cases outlines dozens of cases in which the Islamic system of law has been applied.

Center spokesman David Reaboi said the Islamic strictures are being carried out mostly in cases in which foreigners are the principals.

"Shariah enters U.S. courts through the practice of comity to foreign law," Reaboi explained. "This happens, for example, when a judge decides to allow the use of say, Pakistani or Saudi family law (Shariah) in a dispute between Pakistanis or Saudis."

He said the study only scratches the surface of Shariah's presence in the nation.

"For every case in this sample drawn from published appellate legal cases, there are innumerable cases at the trial level that remain unnoticed except by the participants," the study said. "Thus, this report is a only a sample of possible cases – a 'tip of the iceberg' – of legal cases involving Shariah in local, state and federal courts."

Among the cases cited was one from New Jersey in which a wife sought a restraining order against her husband because of spousal abuse.

"S.D. (wife) and M.J.R. (husband) were both Muslims and citizens of Morocco and both resided in New Jersey. After only three months of marriage, husband began physically abusing wife. The physical abuse administered by husband injured wife's entire body including her breasts and pubic area," the report said.
"Additionally, husband forced himself on wife and had non-consensual sex with her on multiple occasions. Husband stated to wife that Islam allowed him to have sex with her at any time he wished. Wife asked the trial court to grant a restraining order against husband shortly after he verbally divorced her in front of their imam," the report said.

"The trial court refused to issue a final restraining order against husband finding that, although husband had harassed and assaulted wife, husband believed it was his religious right to have non-consensual sex with his wife and that belief precluded any criminal intent on the part of husband," according to the report.

"The New Jersey appellate court reversed the trial court and ordered that the trial court enter a final restraining order against husband. The New Jersey appellate court stated that the trial court erroneously allowed the husband's religious beliefs to excuse him from New Jersey’s criminal code and that husband knowingly engaged in non-consensual sex with wife," the report said.

The report also presents details of 19 more "top cases" and a summary of 50 cases from 23 states that have used Shariah as the basis for court decisions.

American Center for Law and Justice Shariah expert Shaheryar Gill said in the prominent New Jersey case, "the judge actually looked at Shariah law to decide."

Gill says an ACLJ book, "Shariah Law: Radical Islam's Threat to the U.S. Constitution," discusses the problem.

"In the case of 'S.D. v. M.J.R,' the New Jersey appellate court rightly refused to accommodate the sincerely held religious beliefs of a Muslim man who physically, verbally, and sexually abused his wife in accordance with Shariah," the ACLJ book says.

The study emphasizes that family law is only part of the complete Shariah picture. It concludes that since Islamic religious law moves further than American constitutional law on a range of subjects, Shariah is incompatible with U.S. precedents.

"Institutionalized, authoritative Shariah is comprehensive and by definition without limit in its ambitions and scope, and it also includes legally mandated, recommended, permitted, discouraged and prohibited practices that are strongly biased and discriminatory against women, homosexuals and non-Muslims," the study said.

"Shariah law provides a legal framework for violence up to and including legalized murder against apostates (people who have left Islam), homosexuals, blasphemers and especially women accused of various crimes," the study said.

"Just this year in 2011, in Pakistan's Shariah legal system, both apostates and blasphemers have been imprisoned and faced execution. Shariah criminal punishments are extreme, including amputations and lashings for numerous crimes," the study reported.

WND reported in January about the high profile blasphemy case of Pakistani Christian woman Asia Bibi, who received the death penalty for blasphemy, simply for sharing the Gospel with her Muslim coworkers.

"What they're trying to do is fake cases for Islam and these cases are done purposefully. We take an imam, there are two of them. They were fighting against each other and the fight was over a mosque," Saleem said. "That is so devious and it is part of the culture of Islamic invasion. These two imams are fighting over a mosque in Florida. Each imam says it belongs to me.

"One says I built it and I raised the funds. The other one says the Wahhabi government put me over here and they're the ones who sent the money. Both of them are right," Saleem continued.

"They went to the Supreme Court in Florida. What happened is that they said this was a Muslim matter and you need to judge us by Islamic Shariah law or you will not understand how these things work," he said.

Gill said there are other recent cases that demonstrate the level to which Shariah has infiltrated the court system.

"There are different types of cases in which you see that Shariah or Islamic law is applied or is required to be applied, or looked at," Gill said.

"For example, indirectly, there are cases in which foreign judgments are brought into the United States and enforced here," he said.

One such case according to the ACLJ's booklet is the case of 'Farah v. Farah,' heard in Virginia.

In that case, a Virginia trial judge recognized the validity of a Muslim marriage that was conducted through a proxy in England."

"The trial judge ruled that the marriage, which was solemnized in England (though no certificate of marriage was issued by any English authority) and its ceremony completed in Pakistan, must be honored in Virginia because 'the law of the state of Pakistan sanctions marriages performed under the personal law of the parties which in this case was Moslem law,'" the ACLJ book reported.

The book pointed out that the Virginia court, "correctly recognized, however, that Pakistan's recognition of Shariah 'does not control the issue of the validity of the marriage under Virginia law.' Instead, the court applied Virginia law, which only granted comity according to the principles of the location celebrating the marriage, which was England."

"The court determined, however, that the Lebanese order was enforceable because even though the Lebanese court had not explicitly applied the 'best interests of the child' standard, its decision aligned with California's 'best interests of the child' standard," the ACLJ book said.

An Emory University Law School publication noted that the "Malak" case was cited as precedent in other Muslim child custody cases.

Atlas Shrugs publisher and Islam analyst Pamela Geller says that Islamic law cited as the basis for any American court decision shows that the American legal system is turning a dangerous corner.

"It is setting a very dangerous precedent. Shariah law and U.S. law conflict in numerous ways, including on issues of freedom of speech, freedom of conscience, and equality of rights for women. Allowing Shariah to be a determining factor in U.S. courtrooms threatens those rights for all of us," Geller said.


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Mexico: Decapitated Head Found In Ice Chest

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Mexico: Decapitated Head Found In Ice Chest


A member of Mexican Federal Police is pictured as he patrols Acapulco, Guerrero State, on October 16, 2011. More than 41,000 people have been killed in rising drug-related violence in Mexico since December 2006, when President Felipe Calderon deployed soldiers and federal police to take on organized crime. (PEDRO PARDO/AFP/Getty Images)
Acapulco

MEXICO CITY (AP) -- The Mexican army have found an auto shop used to bulletproof vehicles for drug gangs.

Ten people were arrested and soldiers confiscated 10 cars or SUVs that were being bulletproofed, as well as six other vehicles in a warehouse in the northern state of Sinaloa, said the army in a late-Monday statement.

Authorities did not say which cartel managed the shop, but it was in the home state of Mexico's most-wanted drug lord Joaquin Guzman, who is known as "El Chapo."

In border states such as Tamaulipas, soldiers have raided similar bulletproofing auto shops and found freight trucks completely covered in steel.

The army's operation in Sinaloa took place Sunday.

In Acapulco, federal police caught a young woman and a young man as they were getting off a car near a shopping mall with an ice chest, and inside a decapitated head and other human remains, authorities said Tuesday. Police followed them because the car matched the description in a kidnapping report.

Inside their vehicle, police found another head inside another ice chest and poster boards. When drug gangs commit crimes, they often leave messages against rival groups.

Federal police said 19-year-old Damaris Gomez, or "Guera" a nickname for blonde, is the leader of a hitmen cell working for "the street sweeper" gang. The 21-year-old man riding with her is an alleged hitman, police said.

The local gang is fighting against the Independent Cartel of Acapulco for control of the coastal city following the 2010 arrest of a suspected drug capo for the Beltran Leyva cartel, Edgar Valdez Villarreal, also known as "La Barbie."

In the northern border city of Ciudad Juarez, across from El Paso, Texas, police found the dismembered bodies of four men in bits scattered around the city.

Prosecutors' spokesman Arturo Sandoval said police first found two heads and parts of two bodies at street corner in the southern part of the city, along with a handwritten message saying "To the New Juarez cartel, keep recruiting, we're waiting for you."

The New Juarez Cartel is a group that recently appeared, and which accuses authorities of favoring the Sinaloa cartel, which is fighting a bloody turf battle against local gangs for control of Ciudad Juarez.

The other victims' remains were found scattered elsewhere in the city later in the day.

Amid continuing reports about the operation of U.S. intelligence officers in Mexico, the U.S. Embassy in Mexico City issued a statement Tuesday saying that "in accordance with Mexican law, the U.S. government does not carry out law enforcement operations in Mexico. That is a job for Mexican authorities."

The U.S. statement noted that "we closely cooperate with Mexican authorities in that effort, in full respect for Mexico's sovereignty and Mexican law, for the mutual benefit of our two countries and our shared goals. The U.S. government does this by providing equipment and training, and by sharing information."

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Japan Tsunami Debris Floating Toward Hawaii

Tsunami Debris


In this image available from the International Pacific Research Center at the University of Hawaii October 24, 2011 shows an image of a Japanese fishing boat found by a Russian ship in the northwest Pacific. A fishing boat from Fukushima and other debris have been found in the Pacific at a location suggesting that flotsam from Japan's tsunami is drifting east faster than expected, researchers say. The killer tsunami washed up to 20 million tons of debris off the Japanese coast.





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HONOLULU — Up to 20 million tons of tsunami debris floating from Japan could arrive on Hawaii's shores by early 2013, before reaching the West Coast, according to estimates by University of Hawaii scientists.



A Russian training ship spotted the junk – including a refrigerator, a television set and other appliances – in an area of the Pacific Ocean where the scientists from the university's International Pacific Research Center predicted it would be. The biggest proof that the debris is from the Japanese tsunami is a fishing boat that's been traced to the Fukushima Prefecture, the area hardest hit by the March 11 disaster.



Jan Hafner, a scientific computer programmer, told The Associated Press on Tuesday that researchers' projections show the debris would reach the coasts of Oregon, Washington, Alaska and Canada around 2014.



They estimate the debris field is spread out across an area that's roughly 2,000 miles long and 1,000 miles wide located between Japan and Midway Atoll, where pieces could wash up in January. Just how much has already sunk and what portion is still floating is unknown.



"It's a common misconception it's like one mat that you could walk on," he said.



Hafner and the principal researcher in the project, oceanographer Nikolai Maximenko, have been researching surface ocean currents since 2009. When the Japan earthquake and tsunamis struck, they applied their research to the rubble sucked into the Pacific Ocean from Japan. They used computer models to track its path, but until the Russian ship STS Pallada sailing from Honolulu contacted them last month, they had no direct observation of the massive debris field.



"From a scientific point of view, it was confirmation that our research was doing something right," Hafner said. "It was big news for us. But it was mixed feelings because you can't be excited about something as tragic as a tsunami."



The magnitude-9.0 earthquake produced the sort of devastation Japan hadn't seen since World War II, leaving more than 21,000 dead or injured. The tsunami that followed engulfed the northeast and wiped out entire towns.



The waves inundated the Fukushima plant, triggering the worst nuclear accident since Chernobyl. However, it's highly unlikely the tsunami-generated debris would be contaminated with radioactive material, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's marine debris program. NOAA is also gathering information about debris sightings.



After news of the Russian ship's findings, the scientists have been receiving calls from media worldwide.



The scientists want boaters venturing in the area of the debris to send them details about what they see. Researchers want to know details such as GPS position, time, weather and descriptions of the items.



"We are trying to get across our message that it is coming and it's about time to start planning some action," Hafner said.





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