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Thus Saith the Lord and the Apparent Contradictions

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Thus Saith the Lord and the Apparent Contradictions

By John Thiel

Romans 3:3 For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?


3:4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.


Angels visiting man in times past caused the writings of the word. We are called upon to have a clear mind to receive what was revealed. It is my purpose in this study to appreciate the important message of this time to come out of confusion that we contemplated in our last study. Why was Israel in Babylonian captivity? Because they did not heed the words of God. As a consequence of that the prayer of Daniel was to us belongs confusion of faces. To us today we appreciate that we are dwelling in Babylon and we need to heed a thus saith the Lord. What was it that Gods statement is to us in Laodicea today?


Revelation 3:17 …knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:



The Lord Appeals to Us Today



Zechariah 1:2 The LORD hath been sore displeased with your fathers.


1:3 Therefore say thou unto them, Thus saith the LORD of hosts; Turn ye unto me, saith the LORD of hosts, and I will turn unto you, saith the LORD of hosts.


1:4 Be ye not as your fathers, unto whom the former prophets have cried, saying, Thus saith the LORD of hosts; Turn ye now from your evil ways, and [from] your evil doings: but they did not hear, nor hearken unto me, saith the LORD.


Thus saith the Lord is our consideration and yet to find our way through the apparent contradictions which are there because of the condition of drunkenness and confusion of faces. The appeal of our God in Zechariah is turn ye unto me and I will turn unto you. Then don’t be like the fathers who have heard the same message and have not turned. Our only hope for salvation, for a life of meaning and comfort is a thus saith the Lord.


True happiness in this life and in the future life depends upon obedience to a “Thus saith the Lord.” {CG 80.3}


True happiness depends on obedience to a thus saith the Lord. Everyone who would be truly happy in the Lord will only be gained by self-discipline. A discipline to be subject to a thus saith the Lord.


It is discipline of spirit, cleanness of heart and thought that is needed. This is of more value than brilliant talent, tact, or knowledge. An ordinary mind, trained to obey a “Thus saith the Lord,” is better qualified for God’s work than are those who have capabilities, but do not employ them rightly…. Men may take pride of their knowledge of worldly things; but if they have not a knowledge of the true God, of Christ, the Way, the Truth, and the Life, they are deplorably ignorant, and their knowledge will perish with them. Secular knowledge is power; but the knowledge of the Word, which has a transforming influence upon the human mind, is imperishable. {Mar 63.6}


Do you have an ordinary mind? Do you feel you are not a very capable orator or a student of the Bible with an ordinary mind? An ordinary mind is better qualified to be a worker for the Lord. What is your mind as we come before the Lord right now? Do you apologise in your mind for not being as knowledgeable as others? Don’t worry, be willing to submit to a thus saith the Lord.


Let us go to the word of God for guidance. Let us seek for a “Thus saith the Lord.” We have had enough of human methods. {GW 310.1}


Let us go to and gain that. We are to worship the Lord and be guided by him, not human methods. Those who claim and say they believe in a thus saith the Lord are still in confusion. They read but what is their problem? They want to have the guidance of the Lord. God wants to give us rest. God gave some the word but they wouldn’t hear.


Isaiah 28:12 To whom he said, This [is] the rest [wherewith] ye may cause the weary to rest; and this [is] the refreshing: yet they would not hear.


28:13 But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, [and] there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.


Do people like studying the Bible like that today? It’s too laborious. The word of the Lord is not straight forward. Do I have to go from text to text? They are prepared to take a thus saith the Lord but not this awkward way. It was to them confusion. They fall backward and are snared and taken. While we claim to stand by a thus saith the Lord, there is still confusion and people are still snared and taken. That is the sad cases. Apostle Peter addresses it.


2 Peter 3:15 And account [that] the longsuffering of our Lord [is] salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;


3:16 As also in all [his] epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as [they do] also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.


Is this the reality of today’s Babylonish experience? People read apostle Pauls writings and say yes this is right but what is the danger they fall into? They find something’s are hard to be understood so what do they do? The twist and wrest the scriptures to their own understanding. What happens? There is confusion and destruction in consequence of reading a thus saith the Lord. This is serious. Unless much reading of the Bible is correctly received is actually dangerous.


There are many things apparently difficult or obscure, which God will make plain and simple to those who thus seek an understanding of them. But without the guidance of the Holy Spirit we shall be continually liable to wrest the Scriptures or to misinterpret them. There is much reading of the Bible that is without profit and in many cases a positive injury. When the word of God is opened without reverence and without prayer; when the thoughts and affections are not fixed upon God, {SC 110.1}


How many times do we come flippantly to the word? I must be in harmony with his will. Jesus said to the Pharisees if you do his will you will know of the doctrine.


The enemy takes control of the thoughts, and he suggests interpretations that are not correct. Whenever men are not in word and deed seeking to be in harmony with God, then, however learned they may be, they are liable to err in their understanding of Scripture, and it is not safe to trust to their explanations. Those who look to the Scriptures to find discrepancies, have not spiritual insight. With distorted vision they will see many causes for doubt and unbelief in things that are really plain and simple. {SC 110.1}


The real cause is the love of sin. I was trying to help a young man who said to me I know that smoking dope is wrong but I love it. I know that I have to give it up by force if I’m going to come out of the tangle of the law I’m in but I love it. I know I shouldn’t have it but I love it. Is this person going to have great success? We have to be willing and love the law of God if we are going to get it straight. In alcoholics anonymous they have to drink some more to find out how extra terrible it is so we don’t drink anymore. Unless we hate the sin we will confuse our minds.


Because it prophesies evil against the sinner, they claim that they find objections and contradictions in God’s word. While professing to be open to conviction, they allow prejudice to hold sway, and refuse to see the truth which that word reveals. {YI, June 10, 1897 par. 3}


Examine closely how the word of God in its apparent contradictions is not really contradictory if we read it aright.



The Ten Virgins



The kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins, five wise, and five foolish.


Proverbs 15:2 The tongue of the wise useth knowledge aright: but the mouth of fools poureth out foolishness.


The tongue of the wise does what? Use knowledge aright. The five wise virgins had oil in the lamp as much as the foolish ones did. What is the lamp? The Bible. Thy word is a lamp to my path. What is the problem with the foolish virgins? The wise virgins had oil in their vessels, the foolish had none. The vessel is my heart. The foolish will not use the word aright. The knowledge of God’s word will not be used aright and therefore they were in a state of confusion as the bridal party came by. The wise had oil in their vessels and had sacred respect for every word of God and did not misuse it. The wise uses knowledge aright. There is much knowledge in God’s word but the use of it is the source of confusion in the world today. What do these foolish virgins do? They may have their Bible but prejudice they hold causes them to refuse to see the truth that the word reveals and they find contradictions and objections. We are to seek a thus means the Lord in what God says. It will be valuable for us to approach the word with an open mind and see whether I may have had false understandings thinking there’s a contradiction there when there is none at all but it certainly looks like it.


Some Apparent Contradictions


Seek a thus means the Lord in what he says. Is this a thus saith the Lord?


Exodus 20:13 Thou shalt not kill.


Is that a thus saith the Lord?


Exodus 32:26 Then Moses stood in the gate of the camp, and said, Who [is] on the LORD’S side? [let him come] unto me. And all the sons of Levi gathered themselves together unto him.


32:27 And he said unto them, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, [and] go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour.


Was that a thus saith the Lord? Is there a contradiction here? The Lord said thou shalt not kill and now God says go and kill your neighbour. This is the kind of thing that confuses the reader.


1 Samuel 15:1 Samuel also said unto Saul, The LORD sent me to anoint thee [to be] king over his people, over Israel: now therefore hearken thou unto the voice of the words of the LORD.


15:2 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember [that] which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid [wait] for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt.


15:3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.


What is this called in modern terms? Genocide. God said go and commit genocide. Kill children, babies, everybody of the Amalekites.


1 Samuel 15:7 And Saul smote the Amalekites from Havilah [until] thou comest to Shur, that [is] over against Egypt.


15:8 And he took Agag the king of the Amalekites alive, and utterly destroyed all the people with the edge of the sword.


15:9 But Saul and the people spared Agag, and the best of the sheep, and of the oxen, and of the fatlings, and the lambs, and all [that was] good, and would not utterly destroy them: but every thing [that was] vile and refuse, that they destroyed utterly.


15:10 Then came the word of the LORD unto Samuel, saying,


15:11 It repenteth me that I have set up Saul [to be] king: for he is turned back from following me, and hath not performed my commandments. And it grieved Samuel; and he cried unto the LORD all night.


15:17 And Samuel said, When thou [wast] little in thine own sight, [wast] thou not [made] the head of the tribes of Israel, and the LORD anointed thee king over Israel?


He is reminding him when he was little in his own sight and not capable, he followed what God said. Now you know where you are, what are you doing? If you feel you are an ordinary mind then you can follow a thus saith the Lord.


15:18 And the LORD sent thee on a journey, and said, Go and utterly destroy the sinners the Amalekites, and fight against them until they be consumed.


15:19 Wherefore then didst thou not obey the voice of the LORD, but didst fly upon the spoil, and didst evil in the sight of the LORD?


Don’t we assess that the genocide was evil but Saul keeping some of the good sheep, was doing evil in the site of the Lord.


1 Samuel 15:22 And Samuel said, Hath the LORD [as great] delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey [is] better than sacrifice, [and] to hearken than the fat of rams.


15:23 For rebellion [is as] the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness [is as] iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from [being] king.


According to what we read, when God commanded the Levites to slay their neighbour as he commanded Saul to slay these people, if they hadn’t done so they would have been in rebellion and insubordination to a thus saith the Lord. God said thou shalt not kill yet then God said kill. Is it left to us to work out this contradiction? Can you work it out? It is not up to us to work out. In both cases a thus saith the Lord was to be heeded and to understand a thus saith the Lord is a necessity to find a thus saith the Lord to describe the contradiction. I must not rely upon my own observation to explain a thus saith the Lord that looks like a contradiction.


A G Daniels


There was a person who worked it out himself. That was AG Daniels the GC president of the Seventh Day Adventist church was talking to the disfellowshipped company that wouldn’t go to war in World War 1.


“We believe in the Fourth Commandment just the same as we always believed it, but we are not able to accept the interpretation you put upon it. What would you have said concerning Moses a few days after he received the Law of God upon Sinai, if he would have told you to go and kill the King of Bashan, all the men, women and children? Would you have accused him as a murderer? But God commanded him to transgress the Sixth Commandment. You see that many things are found in the interpretation of the Commandments, and we must have freedom to read and to understand them, and not be bound to the interpretation of any small organisation.” Protokkol page 44.


What did this great leader of the Seventh Day Adventist church do? He laid out a confusion to the minds of the people. What is a thus saith the Lord in reference to this apparent contradiction. It is a thus saith the Lord that comes directly into focus.


Exodus 20:2 I [am] the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.


20:3 Thou shalt have no other Gods before me.


20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God [am] a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth [generation] of them that hate me;


20:6 And showing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.


When God said to Saul and the Levites go and kill, what is the right interpretation here? God said you are to have no other Gods but me and what am i? I am a jealous God and I visit the iniquities upon the fathers of the children of the third and fourth gen. when the God who is the one we worship of the ten c’s says I’m going to visit the iniquities of the wicked who do not love me, I’m going to visit upon them their iniquity and I want you to go and visit that. Are they breaking any of the commandments? Can you see the right interpretation from God himself? To fulfill this commandment that God gave Saul was commissioned to do what God said. The first four commandments are the responsibility to God. God is destroying wickedness and sin. If you read the story of how God spoke to Abraham he said that the Ammonites and the wicked people of Canaan had not yet filled the cup of their iniquity so for 400 years the children of Israel would remain in Egypt and after that when the cup is full, the wicked would be completely taken out of the land. The king of Basham was to be slaughtered as they had fulfilled their cup of iniquity and that was God’s prerogative as iniquity had to be wiped out of that land.


When the Lord brought His people a second time to the borders of Canaan, additional evidence of His power was granted to those heathen nations. They saw that God was with Israel in the victory gained over King Arad and the Canaanites, and in the miracle wrought to save those who were perishing from the sting of the serpents. Although the Israelites had been refused a passage through the land of Edom, thus being compelled to take the long and difficult route by the Red Sea, yet in all their journeyings and encampments, past the land of Edom, of Moab and Ammon, they had shown no hostility, and had done no injury to the people or their possessions. On reaching the border of the Amorites, Israel had asked permission only to travel directly through the country, promising to observe the same rules that had governed their intercourse with other nations. When the Amorite king refused this courteous solicitation, and defiantly gathered his hosts for battle, their cup of iniquity was full, and God would now exercise His power for their overthrow. {PP 434.3}


These feeble nonviolent Israelites gained the victory over these warlike Ammonites. It was because God was among them giving them victory. Many miraculous interventions would have been taking place. It was God who visited their cup of iniquity on them. It happened with the king of Bashan.


But the Lord sent His servant with another message to Saul. By obedience he might still prove his fidelity to God and his worthiness to walk before Israel. Samuel came to the king and delivered the word of the Lord. That the monarch might realize the importance of heeding the command, Samuel expressly declared that he spoke by divine direction, by the same authority that had called Saul to the throne. The Amalekites had been the first to make war upon Israel in the wilderness; and for this sin, together with their defiance of God and their debasing idolatry, the Lord, through Moses, had pronounced sentence upon them. By divine direction the history of their cruelty toward Israel had been recorded, with the command, “Thou shalt blot out the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven; thou shalt not forget it.” Deuteronomy 25:19. For four hundred years the execution of this sentence had been deferred; but the Amalekites had not turned from their sins. The Lord knew that this wicked people would, if it were possible, blot out His people and His worship from the earth. Now the time had come for the sentence, so long delayed, to be executed. {PP 627.3}


The forbearance that God has exercised toward the wicked, emboldens men in transgression; but their punishment will be none the less certain and terrible for being long delayed. {PP 628.1}


That is what he commissioned Saul to do. God commanded Saul to do what he had the right to do. There is no contradiction. God has commanded by his word today what? When the angels were singing at the birth of Jesus, what were they singing? Peace and goodwill toward all men.



The Counsel of the Lord



What did John the Baptist say when asked what must we do?


Luke 3:14 And the soldiers likewise demanded of him, saying, And what shall we do? And he said unto them, Do violence to no man, neither accuse [any] falsely; and be content with your wages.


Do violence to no man? How can a soldier do violence to no man? What is a thus saith the Lord to all earthly soldiers? Do violence to no man. When war breaks out the counsel of the Lord is do not fight. Jesus said to Pilate my servants do not fight because my kingdom is not of this world.


Romans 12:19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but [rather] give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance [is] mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.


12:20 Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.


12:21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.


Is this is a thus saith the Lord? It is a thus saith the Lord for us today but in the days of national Israel God had commanded to use them to deal with the destruction of sin and sinners back there. It was his men and he used them. As you see this apparent contradiction you will see more throughout the Bible. What else do we see? Is it not a thus saith the Lord for specific situations as directed by him for that given situation? There is a thus saith the Lord in a general principle as we read it in the scriptures that I must heed. Don’t use specific time and place circumstances as a criteria for unrelated situations. Did you notice that is what A G Daniels did? He used a unrelated situation to determine if the reformers were right for not going to war. That is how confused the interpreted was. The not instruction is that there should be no war upon the people. It is not to be. Jesus made it quite plain. No Amalekites exist today. Neither is the king of Israel part of a political nation today. God’s people are not to have a king over them. That is God’s word. There is only one that is king and that is the king of heaven so we can’t enter into war as the king of heaven has instructed us not to but back there he did.


Proverbs 20:1 Wine [is] a mocker, strong drink [is] raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise.


31:4 [It is] not for kings, O Lemuel, [it is] not for kings to drink wine; nor for princes strong drink:


31:5 Lest they drink, and forget the law, and pervert the judgment of any of the afflicted.


31:6 Give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish, and wine unto those that be of heavy hearts.


31:7 Let him drink, and forget his poverty, and remember his misery no more.


Is this a thus saith the Lord? Absolutely.


Instruction For The Hebrew People In Canaan


Deuteronomy 14:22 Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year.


14:23 And thou shalt eat before the LORD thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the LORD thy God always.


14:24 And if the way be too long for thee, so that thou art not able to carry it; [or] if the place be too far from thee, which the LORD thy God shall choose to set his name there, when the LORD thy God hath blessed thee:


14:25 Then shalt thou turn [it] into money, and bind up the money in thine hand, and shalt go unto the place which the LORD thy God shall choose:


14:26 And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household,


Is there a contradiction here? Who did he say strong drink was for? For those of a heavy heart who are ready to perish but in Deuteronomy he is saying drink wine and strong drink and rejoice before the Lord. A contradiction? Once again that contradiction must be met with a thus saith the Lord.


Another Contradiction


Ezekiel 20:16 Because they despised my judgments, and walked not in my statutes, but polluted my sabbaths: for their heart went after their idols.


20:17 Nevertheless mine eye spared them from destroying them, neither did I make an end of them in the wilderness.


20:18 But I said unto their children in the wilderness, Walk ye not in the statutes of your fathers, neither observe their judgments, nor defile yourselves with their idols:


20:19 I [am] the LORD your God; walk in my statutes, and keep my judgments, and do them;


20:20 And hallow my sabbaths; and they shall be a sign between me and you, that ye may know that I [am] the LORD your God.


20:21 Notwithstanding the children rebelled against me: they walked not in my statutes, neither kept my judgments to do them, which [if] a man do, he shall even live in them; they polluted my sabbaths: then I said, I would pour out my fury upon them, to accomplish my anger against them in the wilderness.


20:22 Nevertheless I withdrew mine hand, and wrought for my name’s sake, that it should not be polluted in the sight of the heathen, in whose sight I brought them forth.


20:23 I lifted up mine hand unto them also in the wilderness, that I would scatter them among the heathen, and disperse them through the countries;


20:24 Because they had not executed my judgments, but had despised my statutes, and had polluted my sabbaths, and their eyes were after their fathers’ idols.


20:25 Wherefore I gave them also statutes [that were] not good, and judgments whereby they should not live;


20:26 And I polluted them in their own gifts, in that they caused to pass through [the fire] all that openeth the womb, that I might make them desolate, to the end that they might know that I [am] the LORD.


That is what Jesus explained in the marriage question in Matthew 19:7-8 when asked by the Pharisees why Moses gave a letter of divorcement. Because of the hardness of heart. Those who desire whatever they want and can come and eat before the Lord, God gave them that statute and judgement just like the marriage one because of the idols in their heart. if a person has a desire for alcohol so badly, God says there it is. He gave them a king when they wanted a king and the king was directed to do things God never intended. This is an explanation for a thus saith the Lord for every apparent contradiction. A thus saith the Lord comes only from the Bible? Does it only come from the writers of the Bible? There was a prophet in the Old Testament never named as a prophet and he came to Jeroboam at the altar. He said thus saith the Lord, the altar that you are sacrificing at is going to split into two. As the king turned around to say get him, his hand withered and the king asked for restoration and he restored. This man never wrote a thing but he said a thus saith the Lord. There are people through time who can speak a thus saith the Lord.


And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions. Joel 2:28. {FLB 293.1}


In His Word, God has committed to men the knowledge necessary for salvation. The Holy Scriptures are to be accepted as an authoritative, infallible revelation of His will. They are the standard of character, the revealer of doctrines, and the test of experience. . . . {FLB 293.2}


Yet the fact that God has revealed His will to men through His Word, has not rendered needless the continued presence and guiding of the Holy Spirit. . . . {FLB 293.3}


During the ages while the Scriptures of both the Old and the New Testament were being given, the Holy Spirit did not cease to communicate light to individual minds, apart from the revelations to be embodied in the Sacred Canon. . . . And mention is made of prophets in different ages, of whose utterances nothing is recorded. In like manner, after the close of the canon of Scripture, the Holy Spirit was still to continue its work, to enlighten, warn, and comfort the children of God. {FLB 293.4}


God has . . . promised to give visions in the “last days”; not for a new rule of faith, but for the comfort of His people, and to correct those who err from Bible truth. {FLB 293.5}


As the Spirit of God has opened to my mind the great truths of His Word, and the scenes of the past and the future, I have been bidden to make known to others that which has thus been revealed. {FLB 293.6}


1 Corinthians 1:6 Even as the testimony of Christ was confirmed in you:


1:7 So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ:


1:8 Who shall also confirm you unto the end, [that ye may be] blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.


We live today with circumstances and modern situations which the Bible has no straight thus saith the Lord. In principle it has but not straight. Today when the dress of humanity is so confused in the babylonish style, there is a thus saith the Lord that is written in the writings in another writer from the Bible.


Early in my youth I was asked several times, Are you a prophet? I have ever responded, I am the Lord’s messenger. I know that many have called me a prophet, but I have made no claim to this title. My Saviour declared me to be His messenger. “Your work,” He instructed me, “is to bear My word. {1SM 32.2}


“Be not afraid of man, for My shield shall protect you. It is not you that speaketh: it is the Lord that giveth the messages of warning and reproof. Never deviate from the truth under any circumstances. Give the light I shall give you. The messages for these last days shall be written in books, and shall stand immortalized, to testify against those who have once rejoiced in the light, but who have been led to give it up because of the seductive influences of evil.” {1SM 32.3}


When you read what is in those books, question are the things written in those books a thus saith the Lord? It is not Ellen white speaking, but the Lord. What is written in those books is what God has said and it is to be recorded to stand against those who have once rejoiced in the light but given it up. God in his mercy has sent the Spirit of Prophecy, the words of Jesus, the testimony of Jesus.


As the Spirit of God has opened to my mind the great truths of His Word, and the scenes of the past and the future, I have been bidden to make known to others that which has thus been revealed. {FLB 293.6}


She always uses the words ‘I was shown’ or ‘I saw’.


There are those who will be glad to lull you to sleep in your carnal security, but I have a different work. My message is to alarm you, to bid you reform your lives and cease your rebellion against the God of the universe. Take the Word of God, and see if you are in harmony with it. Is your character such as will bear the search of the heavenly investigation? {FLB 293.7}


The Spirit of Prophecy, Ellen White’s writings, are also a thus saith the Lord. The problem is what people do with the Bible is what they do with her writings also.


Human minds vary. The minds of different education and thought receive different impressions of the same words, and it is difficult for one mind to give to one of a different temperament, education, and habits of thought by language exactly the same idea as that which is clear and distinct in his own mind. Yet to honest men, right-minded men, he can be so simple and plain as to convey his meaning for all practical purposes. If the man he communicates with is not honest and will not want to see and understand the truth, he will turn his words and language in everything to suit his own purposes. He will misconstrue his words, play upon his imagination, wrest them from their true meaning, and then entrench himself in unbelief, claiming that the sentiments are all wrong. {1SM 19.1}


This is the way my writings are treated by those who wish to misunderstand and pervert them. They turn the truth of God into a lie. In the very same way that they treat the writings in my published articles and in my books, so do skeptics and infidels treat the Bible. {1SM 19.2}


Sr White writes emphatically that when you read my writings, the principle I have indicated in the Old Testament specific situations apply in the Spirit of Prophecy also to what Ellen White Writes. When she says a thus saith the Lord for a particular situation, it is not to taken always taken for everybody and yet other things are to be taken for everyone. We have statements that say the Seventh Day Adventist church is not Babylon. She said when you read my writings bear in mind time and place. When the Seventh Day Adventist church stood faithful to the law of God and proclaimed it in all its purity, was anybody claiming the Adventist church to be Babylon true? No. She said do not call the church Babylon because it is the only church on earth that gives the true message today at the present time. Notice also what she says, there is a contradiction maybe here.


We are in danger of becoming a sister to fallen Babylon, of allowing our churches to become corrupted, and filled with every foul spirit, a cage for every unclean and hateful bird; and will we be clear unless we make decided movements to cure the existing evil? {TSB 188.3}


Is there a contradiction here? Not if you understand time and place and anyone who reads this statement today has to ask, has the Seventh Day Adventist church spiralled downhill? She is in danger of becoming a sister of fallen Babylon. A sister makes her what? There are statements used in the marriage question where she says I saw Sr Johnson is not yet able to marry until her husband committed adultery yet in Testimonies volume 4 she says this marriage vow links the two individuals which nought that death should sever. There must be a thus saith the Lord for any apparent contradiction. We are to know that where to be a contradiction it is because our befogged minds draw conclusions which are not a thus saith the Lord. Look for a thus saith the Lord to do deal with any apparent contradictions. Clearly you will find it. Let not these apparent contradictions be the source of the drunkenness of the church today as it speaks of specific cases and not general principles. Jesus changes not and everything written is for our study so we may follow our Lord Jesus Christ as he meant us to follow him.


Amen.

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Feb 14, 2011

In an article posted on January 3 of this year, I predicted a rise in food prices resulting from freak weather events (http://www.naturalnews.com/030903_p…). Here’s what I said in that article:

By the end of 2012, I predict significant food supply disruptions in North America, brought about either by radical weather affecting crop yields or perhaps the invasion of disease indirectly caused by the over-use of pesticides or GMOs. The number of people in America struggling to feed themselves and their families will rise along with food prices. …Expect to see food prices climb with alarming speed over the next two years. While food won’t disappear, it will become significantly more expensive, causing more people to shift to subsidized foods (corn, sugar, etc.) which also happen to be some of the worst foods for your health.

Now there’s news from Mexico that the fresh produce normally shipped to U.S. grocery stores has been largely destroyed by the freak cold weather snap that struck the continental United States over the past 10 days. As a result, prices on cucumbers, zucchini, peppers, tomatoes and asparagus are set to double or triple starting right now.

Even worse, it looks like the supply of many of these items will be completely wiped out. You won’t be able to buy them, in other words, at any price!

This is the fallout from the worst freeze event recorded in North America in 60 years. It has affected not just Northern Mexico, but also much of the U.S. Southwest. It also raises the question: Is the food supply further threatened by radical weather events?

A theory of what’s happening

I’m not going to go into all the details here, but from what I’ve been reading and researching about a number of seemingly-unrelated events, some clues that might explain their commonality begin to emerge. It all seems to lead to the theory that this is all being caused by the weakening of the Earth’s magnetic field.

The magnetic field is shifting, you see. It’s in the process of flipping, as it has done many times throughout Earth’s history. As explained onWikipedia(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomag…):

“The Earth’s magnetic north pole is drifting from northern Canada towards Siberia with a presently accelerating rate — 10 km per year at the beginning of the 20th century, up to 40 km per year in 2003, and since then has only accelerated.”

I recently wrote about how an airport in Tampa, Florida recently had to renumber its runways to account for the unexpectedly rapid shifts in the Earth’s magnetic poles (http://www.naturalnews.com/030996_b…).

That same story discusses the theory of how the weakening magnetosphere may have allowed high altitude sub-zero air carrying toxic space clouds called Noctilucent clouds to invade the lower atmosphere, causing the sudden death of birds that we’ve been seeing reported across the globe. (This theory, however, does not account for the unexplained deaths of fish.)

The other side effect of this is the introduction of extremely cold temperatures from high altitude (or low orbit) space clouds that could be reaching into the lower atmosphere and spreading from the North Pole down through areas that would normally never see such low temperatures. This may explain the “freak weather” that’s killing the produce and driving food prices through the roof.

How Earth’s magnetosphere impacts your dinner plate

Of course, it’s all just a theory so far, but here’s the theory in a nutshell:

Weakening Earth’s magnetic field (which is what happens during the magnetic pole shift transition) causes extreme cold to break into Earth’s lower atmosphere, which causes freak cold weather events to spread far and wide, which causes the destruction of food crops.

Theoretically, this could even lead to a rapid ice age taking over the planet, almost like something out of a Hollywood movie. Such a scenario would obviously be devastating to the human population across the planet as billions would starve from a lack of food. (That would no doubt fulfill Bill Gates’ mission of reducing the world population, eh? Who needs vaccines when you’ve got sub-zero space clouds?)

The Earth’s magnetosphere, you see, is a vital protective force field that protects life on Earth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnet…). Without the magnetosphere, we would not only be fried by cosmic radiation; Earth’s atmosphere would also be slowly blown away by the solar wind, leaving Earth looking a whole lot like Mars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_wind).

The magnetosphere is believed to be generated by the Earth’s core. As Wikipedia explains, “The internal field of the Earth (its “main field”) appears to be generated in the Earth’s core by a dynamo process, associated with the circulation of liquid metal in the core, driven by internal heat sources.”

We know from studying lava flows of basalt rock that the Earth’s magnetic field has “flipped” many times in the past. Interestingly, a scientific study published in the journalNatureand entitled“New evidence for extraordinarily rapid change of the geomagnetic field during a reversal”reveals that the Earth’s magnetic field has, in the past, shifted by as much assix degrees in just 24 hours. (http://www.nature.com/nature/journa…)

At that pace, the magnetic poles would be completely reversed in just 30 days.

A magnetic flip isn’t pretty

This NASA page shows an interesting picture of what happens during a “magnetic flip” (http://www.nasa.gov/vision/earth/lo…). It explains:

“Magnetic lines of force near Earth’s surface become twisted and tangled, and magnetic poles pop up in unaccustomed places. A south magnetic pole might emerge over Africa, for instance, or a north pole over Tahiti. Weird. But it’s still a planetary magnetic field, and it still protects us from space radiation and solar storms.”

Thismagnetic pole shift(or “magnetic flip”) could allow extreme cold to abruptly enter the lower atmosphere, perhaps even reaching all the way down to the Earth’s surface. The magnetic field isn’t “clean” and “smooth,” you see. Here’s an image of the current magnetic map of the planet:http://gravmag.ou.edu/mag_earth/mag…

Notice how it has holes in it? It’s not completely smooth and uniform as you might expect. In fact, magnetic “holes” can easily appear and then disappear anywhere on the planet as the flows of metal in the Earth’s core shift around. These holes can last anywhere from a few minutes to a few decades, depending on what’s happening in the planet’s core. During short-lived magnetic turbulence, a particular region on the planet can “lose” its magnetic field (it’s neither North nor South but neutral). This results in a magnetic “gap” that creates a vulnerability. The general consensus is that the greater danger here is exposure to cosmic radiation, but there is also the possibility that freezing cold space clouds may also be influenced by the magnetosphere (or the gaps therein).

That may be some of what we just experienced over the last ten days, in fact: A taste of things yet to come if the magnetic field continues to churn and drift. Imagine a winter where even Mexico freezes, and many areas of Canada maintain temperatures of minus 50 Celsius…

Again, this is just atheoryof what could be happening. A hypothesis. I don’t have any scientific proof that the magnetic pole shift is causing these freak cold weather events. But it’s clearly an area deserving exploration. Because if the cold weather events get worse over the next few years, we could be looking atserious disruptions in thefood supply, the climate and Earth’s ecosystems.

This isn’t being caused by global warming, either. Unless you believe that global warming causes global cooling, of course. Instead, this is being caused by the movement of Earth’s core. Therein lies the bad news: There’s virtually nothing we can do about it. If the Earth’s core wants to shift, it’s going to shift, regardless of what you or I want it to do.

If that’s what’s happening, get out your garden seeds and your cold weather greenhouses. It might be a good time to subscribe to your local CSA and support their farming efforts, too. You’ll need to grow more food to help compensate for the global food failures likely to be brought on by increasingly radical weather.

Get ready for some crazy summer monsoons in the months ahead, too. I predict we’re going to see some cataclysmic flooding in Southeast Asia, followed by deadly droughts somewhere else on the planet. Radical weather has a way of reminding humankind that we’re not so clever after all… and that we need the planet for our survival, but the planet can survive just fine without us around.

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Terrorist Who Trained London Bombers Was Working For US Government

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Listen up Glenn Beck: “Radical Islam” is a creature of the US military-industrial complex

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Paul Joseph Watson

Prison Planet.com

Monday, February 14, 2011

While talking heads like Glenn Beck continue to invoke the threat of radical Islam, they habitually ignore the blindingly obvious, that radical Islam is a creature of the US military-industrial complex. Case in point – the terrorist who trained the London bombers was a US informant and has been freed after serving only four and a half years of a possible 70-year sentence.

Citing his “exceptional co-operation,” in working with US authorities, a New York Judge released Mohammed Junaid Babar despite him pleading guilty to five counts of terrorism, an outcome that has, “Raised questions over whether Babar was a US informer at the time he was helping to train the ringleader of the 7 July tube and bus bombings,” reports the London Guardian.

Babar admits to consorting with high level “Al-Qaeda” terrorists, as well as “providing senior members with money and equipment, running weapons.” He also set up a training camp in Pakistan in 2003 where alleged 7/7 ringleader Mohammad Sidique Khan learned bomb-making techniques.

“Graham Foulkes, a magistrate whose 22-year-old son David was killed by Khan at Edgware Road underground station in 2005, said: “People get four and a half years for burglary. They can get more for some road traffic offences. So for an international terrorist who’s directly linked to the death of my son and dozens and dozens of people to get that sentence is just outrageous.”

But Babar’s release makes perfect sense given the fact that he was likely working for US authorities as an informant while training one of the alleged London bombers.

“A remark from the sentencing judge that Babar “began co-operating even before his arrest”, has raised the possibility, supported by other circumstantial evidence obtained by the Guardian, that he may have been an informant for the US government before his detention by the FBI in April 2004,” writes the Guardian’s Shiv Malik, who in a separate article goes into greater depth on how, “Babar may have been working for the US security services while pretending to be a jihadi – allegations that could imply serious failures to prevent the 7 July bombings.”

The Guardian article describes how a top US terrorism lawyer has seen sealed evidence in the case which “suggests Babar could have been working for the US authorities before his arrest in April 2004.”

“Having reviewed the court transcript himself, bereaved father Graham Foulkes said: “There’s a hint from one or two of the sentences [in the transcript] that do strongly suggest [Babar's] co-operation was going well beyond his official arrest. And it looks as if the Americans may well have known in detail what Babar was up to in Pakistan [at the time] and that is a very, very serious matter.”

The fact that Babar has served less than 5 years for playing a crucial role in attacks which killed 52 people and injured hundreds more clearly indicates that he is being rewarded by US authorities for his involvement in the 7/7 bombings.

Lest we forget that the the so-called mastermind behind the 7/7 London bombings, Haroon Rashid Aswat, was a British intelligence asset. Former Justice Dept. prosecutor and terror expert John Loftus revealed that the so called Al-Muhajiroun group, based in London, had formed during the Kosovo crisis, during which fundamentalist muslim leaders (Or what is now referred to as Al-Qaeda) were recruited by MI6 to fight in Kosovo.

The revelations about Babar once again underscore the myopic and ludicrous assertions of people like Glenn Beck, who constantly invoke the threat of radical Islam, particularly in the context of recent events in Egypt, while failing to point out that radical Islam is being fostered and fomented by the US military-industrial complex.

Almost every single major terror plot over the last decade plus blamed on “radical Islam” has had the combined or individual fingerprints of US, British, Canadian and Israeli intelligence agencies and federal law enforcement bodies all over it.

9/11

Every single shred of evidence concerning the alleged 9/11 hijackers points to the fact that they were patsies controlled by informants working for the US government.

The US Special Operations Command’s Able Danger program identified the hijackers and their accomplices long before 9/11, but when the head of the program, Colonel Anthony Shaffer, tried to pass the information on to the 9/11 Commission, he was gagged and slandered and the vital information his team had passed on was ignored and buried.

Curt Weldon, Former U.S. Republican Congressman and senior member of the House Armed Services Committee, documented how the US government tracked the hijackers’ movements before 9/11.

Louai al-Sakka, the man who trained six of the hijackers, was a CIA informant. A number of the other alleged hijackers were trained at US air bases. In the months prior to 9/11, alleged hijackers Khalid Almidhar and Nawaf Alhazmi were renting rooms in a house owned and lived in by an FBI informant.

In a 2002 article entitled The Hijackers We Let Escape, Newsweek’s Michael Isikoff and Daniel Klaidman documented how, “The CIA tracked two suspected terrorists to a Qaeda summit in Malaysia in January 2000, then looked on as they re-entered America and began preparations for September 11.”

The fact that there were numerous Al-Qaeda affiliated terrorists involved in the pre-planning stages of 9/11 is unsurprising given former FBI translator Sibel Edmonds’ testimony that Bin Laden was working for the US right up until the day of 9/11.

On the very morning of 9/11, the money man behind the alleged hijackers, Pakistan’s ISI Chief Mahmoud Ahmad, was meeting with U.S. government and intelligence officials.

Indeed, even after 9/11, the so-called spiritual leader of the very hijackers who allegedly slammed Flight 77 into the Pentagon, Anwar al-Awlaki, was himself invited to dine with Pentagon top brass mere months after the attack.

UNDERWEAR BOMBER

Al-Awlaki was later involved in directing the underwear bomber, who was allowed to board the plane by order of the US State Department aided by a well-dressed man who got Abdulmutallab on the airliner despite the fact that he was on a terror watch list and had no passport. Eyewitness and Delta 253 passenger Kurt Haskell subsequently blew the whistle to state that Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab was given the bomb by the US government to create a pretext for the implementation of naked body scanners and boost the TSA’s budget.

FORT HOOD SHOOTING

Fort Hood shooter Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan repeatedly communicated with alleged Al-Qaeda leaders for nearly a year before his rampage. The FBI knew Hasan was sending emails to terrorists, but they did nothing, allowed him to remain on a U.S. Army base, and even invited him to participate in Homeland Security exercises. Hasan was also being handled by US agent Al-Awlaki.

FORT DIX

Lawyers in a case relating to the much vaunted 2007 terror plot to attack Fort Dix and kill “as many soldiers as possible” concluded that FBI informants were the key figures behind the operation and that the accused, six foreign-born Muslims, were merely bungling patsies. US agent Al-Awlaki was again involved in training the would-be terrorists.

TORONTO PLOT

The “Toronto 18″ terrorists turned out to be “a bunch of incompetent guys who were primarily misled by a delusional megalomaniac”. The explosive fertilizer material the terrorist cell apparently planned to use was in fact purchased by an informant working for the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, agents of which had radicalized the group. US agent Al-Awlaki was again involved in the plot.

PORTLAND PLOT

The man accused of attempting to blow up a Christmas tree in Portland’s Pioneer Courthouse Square, Mohamed Osman Mohamud, was a befuddled patsy, groomed and radicalized from start to finish by the FBI as part of a radicalization and entrapment program. Shortly after news of the attempted bombing broke, it emerged that the FBI had provided Mohamud with a fake bomb, van, and cell phone (to be used as a detonator) in the incident, as well as thousands of dollars in cash at every step of the plot.

MUMBAI MASSACRE

The man accused of being the mastermind behind the 2008 Mumbai massacre, David Headley, was a US government informant and was also at one time on the payroll of the Central Intelligence Agency.

SHOE BOMBER

Hundreds of terror suspects have been convicted in civilian federal courts, including convicted shoe bomber Richard Reid who attended the Finsbury Park Mosque in North London. The Finsbury imam at the time was Abu Hamza al-Masri who began working with British Security Services in 1997.

MIAMI PLOT

In the media-lauded Miami terror case in 2007, the supposed ringleader Narseal “Prince Marina” Batiste “had heard of Al-Qaeda, but wasn’t sure what it stood for. The FBI instigators made Batiste swear loyalty to al-Qaida; then had him call on his local buddies to form an ‘Islamic army’ in Miami. None had military training. Some could barely read. But Batiste assured the group in the midst of its collective marijuana buzz of greatness ahead,” wrote Saul Landau.

These were the men who comedian John Stewart referred to as “seven dipshits in a warehouse” after Attorney General Alberto Gonzales had ludicrously told the press that the group of semi-retarded gang-bangers had planned to “wage a ground war against America”.

NEW YORK SYNAGOGUE BOMB PLOT

A group of so-called Muslim terrorists were busted in New York for supposedly planning to blow up synagogues in the Bronx and shoot down military airplanes flying out of the New York Air National Guard base. The men were provided with fake explosives and inactive missiles by an FBI informant, reported the Christian Science Monitor. Two of the ringleaders of the “deadly” plot which was endlessly hyped by the media turned out to be semi-retarded potheads, exactly as we had predicted would be the case due to the innumerable past cases with the exact same modus operandi.

I could go on for pages and pages listing details of ever major terror plot since and indeed before 9/11 that were blamed on “radical Islam” yet in fact turned out to be completely contrived by the FBI, CIA, Canadian or British authorities.

It is a glaring and manifestly provable fact that radical Islam is being manufactured and provoked by the US military-industrial complex in order to provide itself with an enemy to justify billions every year in weapons sales along with giant federal government slush funds that enrich the coffers of public-private partnerships while crushing the constitutional rights of American citizens.

Glenn Beck is completely accurate when he says that radical Islam represents a direct threat to the future of freedom in the west. The ultimate “clash of civilizations” is a very real possibility. But by deliberately obscuring the fact that radical Islam is a creature of the US military-industrial complex, a bastard child of the new world order that is being strengthened by our own governments to be used as a weapon against us, Beck and others who regurgitate the same rhetoric are misleading Americans into thinking that radical Islam itself is the new world order, when in fact radical Islam is merely a tool of the new world order, being from its very inception completely owned and controlled by the US military-industrial complex.

Paul Joseph Watson is the editor and writer for Prison Planet.com. He is the author of Order Out Of Chaos. Watson is also a fill-in host for The Alex Jones Show. Watson has been interviewed by many publications and radio shows, including Vanity Fair and Coast to Coast AM, America’s most listened to late night talk show.

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Report: Gas company paid for Pennsylvania senator's Super Bowl trip

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Report: Gas company paid for Pennsylvania senator's Super Bowl trip

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PHILADELPHIA—An energy company drilling in Pennsylvania's gas-rich Marcellus Shale paid for a top state senator's trip to see the Pittsburgh Steelers play in the Super Bowl in Texas, a newspaper reported Sunday.

Senate President Pro Tempore Joe Scarnati, R-Jefferson, had his ticket, plane ride and hotel bill paid for by Consol Energy, Inc., one of Scarnati's top aides told The Philadelphia Inquirer.

The free trip is permitted under Pennsylvania's ethics rules, Drew Crompton, Scarnati's legal counsel and chief of staff, told the newspaper. Scarnati might reimburse Consol for some of the costs, Crompton said.

According to state records, Consol executives and lobbyists have contributed more than $15,000 to Scarnati's campaigns since 2006. The Inquirer reported that it's not known whether Consol paid for any other legislators to attend last Sunday's game in Arlington, Texas, a contest in which the Green Bay Packers beat the Steelers, 31-25.

In a statement, Canonsburg, Pa.-based Consol said it "had several guests join us at the Super Bowl," and noted that the expenses would be reported on its next lobbying disclosure report. The company did not identify the other guests.

Under Pennsylvania law, legislators are allowed to accept such tickets and travel as long as they report everything above a $650 annual threshold.

"There's nothing illegal about it, but it does show the undue influence industry has over elected officials," said Jan Jarrett, president of Citizens for Pennsylvania's Future, an environmental advocacy organization that has pushed for taxes and tighter regulations on natural-gas drilling.

"It really creates an uneven playing field between those who've got the resources to buy that kind of influence and those who don't," she said.

Other Pennsylvania legislators, including Sen. Dominic Pileggi, R-Delaware, went to the Super Bowl as guests of the Steelers.

Asked by The Inquirer if the trip would affect Scarnati's decisions on natural-gas policy, Crompton said it would not.

"Sen. Scarnati has taken positions that are adverse to shale companies, and nothing in his mind has changed," he said. "He does not toe the line of these companies. His independence speaks for itself."

Consol Energy expanded its Marcellus presence last year with the $3.5 billion acquisition of the natural-gas operations of Dominion Resources Inc., including 1.46 million acres of gas leases and 9,000 operating wells.

Barry Kauffman, executive director of Common Cause Pennsylvania, said legislators in some other states aren't allowed to accept free travel or gifts, and that his group has been pushing for such rules in the Keystone State.

"Under no circumstances should he be allowing someone to pay for his trip if they're lobbying the Legislature," Kauffman said. "It just doesn't look good.

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Syrian blogger gets five years’ jail

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February 14, 2011

Syrian woman blogger Tal al-Mallouhi has been sentenced to five years in prison by a state security court, the Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said in a statement on Monday.

“The state security court in Damascus today condemned blogger Tal al-Mallouhi to five years in prison after finding her guilty of divulging information to a foreign country,” it said in a statement received in Nicosia.

Mallouhi, a 19-year-old high school student, had been accused of spying for the United States embassy in Cairo, a charge denied by Washington which called for her “immediate release” on Saturday.

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