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Gunbattle kills 11 in western Mexican town

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Gunbattle kills 11 in western Mexican town

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An image of the  Virgin of Guadalupe is seen at the site where rival gangs held a gunbattle in Tecalitlan, Jalisco, western Mexico, late Friday, Dec.

AP – An image of the Virgin of Guadalupe is seen at the site where rival gangs held a gunbattle in Tecalitlan, …

By ALEXANDRA OLSON, Associated Press Alexandra Olson, Associated Press

MEXICO CITY – A gunbattle between rival gangs killed 11 people during a Virgin of Guadalupe celebration in a western Mexican town, authorities said Saturday.


Armed men arrived in three cars and opened fire on another group of gunmen in the main plaza of Tecalitlan just as a crowd was gathering Friday night, the Jalisco state attorney general's office said in a statement. One of the gunmen hurled a grenade.


Eight men were killed at the scene and two others died at a hospital, the office said.


Another man, the brother of one of those killed in the plaza, was found shot to death next to a car on the highway just outside the small town, the statement said.


Inside the car, which had been reported stolen, authorities found two banners. One read: "We haven't come to kill innocent people. We've come for El Zopilote." The other said: "We do not charge quotas."


Photographs of the aftermath showed overturned chairs in front of a stage where a mariachi band was set to play. A large image of the Virgin of Guadalupe loomed over the scene.


Police were investigating whether the death of two other men, whose torched remains were found inside a car in the nearby town of Zapotiltic, were tied to the Tecalitlan shootout.


In Tecalitlan, police recovered a grenade launcher and bullet clips for AK-47 and AR-15 rifles.


The banners and the weapons suggested the gunmen were drug gang members, but authorities had no information on the suspects or motive for the shooting.


Tecalitlan is near Michoacan state, where La Familia cartel leader Nazario Moreno Gonzalez was killed this week in two days of shootouts between gunmen and federal police.


At least 11 other people were killed in the violence in Michoacan, including a baby and a teenage girl. Cartel gunmen attacked motorists and used their vehicles as barricades across the state to prevent federal police from sending reinforcements to Apatzingan, the town where the government says Moreno was killed in a shootout Thursday.


The government says cartel gunmen fled with some of their dead and Moreno's body has not been recovered.


Mexico's bloody drug war has claimed more than 28,000 lives since President Felipe Calderon intensified a crackdown on cartels when he took office in late 2006.

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Sarah Palin Visits Haiti Under Tight Guard

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Sarah Palin Visits Haiti Under Tight Guard


Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, center, is interviewed by Fox News Channel journalist Greta Van Susteren during her visit to a cholera treatment centerrun by Rev. Franklin Graham's relief organization Samaritan's Purse in Cabaret, Haiti, Saturday Dec. 11, 2010. Palin arrived in Haiti as part of a brief humanitarian mission in the impoverished nation struggling to overcome post-election violence and a cholera epidemic (AP Photo)


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Haiti – Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin began a tightly stage-managed visit to Haiti on Saturday in which she visited cholera clinics while avoiding crowds and the press.

Palin, who traveled in part by helicopter, provided access on her tour solely to the U.S. cable network Fox News
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Graham's organization, Samaritan's Purse, refused to discuss Palin's itinerary with other media and asked Haitian and American reporters to leave its compounds, citing a "security lockdown."

"I've really enjoyed meeting this community. They are so full of joy," Palin was quoted as saying on the organization's website. "We are so fortunate in America, and we are responsible for helping those less fortunate."

Associated Press television journalists saw Palin talking with foreign aid workers. She wore cargo pants, a T-shirt and designer sunglasses on her first trip outside the United States since speaking to investors in Hong Kong last year. That speech was also closed to the media.

Palin's visit comes amid a cholera outbreak that has killed more than 2,000 people and sickened more than 96,000 others.



(AP Photos)
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Westboro Baptist Picketers Outnumbered at Elizabeth Edwards Funeral (Video)

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Westboro Baptist Picketers Outnumbered at Elizabeth Edwards Funeral (Video)

Video from earlier today, the Westboro protesters showed up (holding very disturbing signs) but they are vastly outnumbered by patriots across the street
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Members of the controversial Westboro Baptist Church picketed the funeral of Elizabeth Edwards in Raleigh, N.C. Saturday. But they were vastly outnumbered by a “human buffer” of people who quietly stood in the rain singing Christmas carols and carrying signs reading “God loves Elizabeth Edwards” or simply “Grace” and “Hope.”

Skip to next paragraph Former senator and presidential candidate John Edwards comforts his daughter Emma Claire as they leave the funeral service for Elizabeth Edwards at Edenton Street United Methodist Church in Raleigh, N.C.

Westboro is a small, unaffiliated church in Topeka, Kansas, whose congregation consists mainly of the Rev. Fred Phelps and members of his family. Frequently described as a “hate group,” it’s known for its extreme views on homosexuality.

The group believes that God is punishing America for its growing acceptance of gay rights by killing US troops in Iraq and Afghanistan
How low will Westboro go? They brought small children to hold hateful signs
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UK Sreet Preacher Wins Wrongful Arrest Case

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UK Sreet Preacher Wins Wrongful Arrest Case

By Brian Hutt|Christian Today Reporter

LONDON – A street preacher has been awarded more than $6,000 in damages after a judge ruled it was wrong for police to arrest and handcuff him for speaking out against homosexuality.

Anthony Rollins, who suffers from Asperger’s syndrome, was preaching in Birmingham city center in June 2008 when a member of the public, John Edwards, took offense at comments he made describing homosexual conduct as morally wrong.

According to the Christian Institute, which backed Rollins’ case, police arrived on the scene after receiving a call from Edwards and PC Adrian Bill proceeded to handcuff Rollins without any further inquiry.

Birmingham County Court ruled on Wednesday that PC Bill had committed assault and battery against Rollins by handcuffing him unnecessarily.

Judge Lance Ashworth QC said in his ruling on Wednesday that the arrest demonstrated a “lack of thoughtfulness.”

PC Bill, the judge ruled, had made the arrest “as a matter of routine without any thought being given to Rollins’ Convention Rights”, which pertain to free speech and religious liberty.

After his arrest, Rollins was taken by PC Bill to the station where he was held for three hours but never questioned for his account of events.

He was charged with breaching Section 5 of the Public Order Act but the charges were dropped before the case came to trial.

Rollins decided to sue West Midlands Police after a complaint he made to the Independent Police Complaints Commission about his treatment was rejected.

His claims of wrongful arrest, unlawful imprisonment, assault and battery, and the infringement of his human rights were upheld by the court on Wednesday.

Testifying in court, Rollins said he had felt “shocked and very humiliated” when the police marched him away in handcuffs.

He said that when he had tried to speak to PC Bill after his arrest he was told to “shut it.”

Mike Judge, of the Christian Institute, said: “Street preachers may not be everyone’s cup of tea, but it is part of our Christian heritage. Most people just walk on by and ignore it. The police have no business arresting Christians for quoting the Bible.

“Whether you agree with Rollins’ beliefs or not, surely we all value free speech. Christians are tired of being put on trial for their beliefs. There is clearly a problem with the Public Order Act and it needs fixing.”

Section 5 of the Public Order Act makes it an offense to use “threatening, abusive or insulting” words or behavior in a way that could alarm or distress another person.

The law has led to the arrest of several Christians over comments they made expressing their religious beliefs.

Last year, Christian hotel owners Ben and Sharon Vogelenzang were brought before the courts after they “insulted” a Muslim guest during a conversation in which they expressed their concerns about the status of Islamic women. They were eventually found not guilty of a religiously aggravated public order offense.

Earlier in the year, Christian street preacher Dale Mcalpine was arrested after telling a community police officer that he believed homosexuality to be a sin. The charges were later dropped.

The Christian Institute is calling upon the Government to repeal the word “insulting” from Section 5 of the Public Order Act when the Freedom Bill passes through Parliament in the coming months.

Writing on the ConservativeHome website this week, Judge said removing “insulting” from the law would not interfere with the police’s ability to deal with genuine public disorder.

“Free speech is a bedrock principle of any true democracy. That freedom is worthless unless it encompasses the dissenting opinion, the awkward belief, the uncomfortable truth,” he said.

“This freedom doesn’t just protect the speaker. It ensures that you, I and everyone has the freedom to hear, the freedom to listen, the freedom to weigh up competing ideas for ourselves.

“If anyone feels insulted and distressed by that, sorry but that’s the price of living in a free society.”

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Faith-Healing Couple Convicted in Son's Death

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Faith-Healing Couple Convicted in Son's Death

By Lawrence D. Jones|Christian Post Reporter

The Pennsylvania parents who turned to prayer instead of medicine as their son died of bacteria pneumonia were found guilty of involuntary manslaughter and child endangerment Friday.

Herbert and Catherine Schaible could face five to 10 years in prison for the manslaughter charge and 3-1/2 to seven years for endangering the welfare of a child in the 2009 death of their 2-year-old son.

The couple, who have six other children, must await until Feb. 2 to be sentenced by Common Pleas Judge Carolyn Engel Temin. Bail was set at $150,000 pending that hearing, according to the Philadelphia Inquirer.

Assistant District Attorney Joanne Pescatore said she was not sure whether she would ask for prison time for two felonies.

During the trial, defense attorneys argued that faith played no part in the parents' decision to forgo medical care for their son, Kent Schaible. They said the couple thought their son was suffering from a severe cold and was not very sick.

The defense witness, a high-profile forensic pathologist Cyril Wecht, testified that a fast-moving strain of bacteria could have killed him within hours of his death.

The Schaibles did not take the stand during the four-day trial.

According to the Inquirer, the prosecution argued that Kent's death could have been prevented if the couple had sought medical help instead of relying on their beliefs in faith healing.

A statement made by Herbert Schaible to homicide detectives was read during the trial, in which he said, "We tried to fight the devil, but in the end the devil won."

Assistant Medical Examiner Edwin Lieberman testified that his symptoms of fever, coughing, diarrhea, and lethargy indicated something more serious than a cold and that medical treatment could have prevented his death, as reported by the Inquirer.

Herbert, 42, teaches at a school run by the couple's church, First Century Gospel Church, and Catherine, 41, is a stay-at-home mother.

The church states on its website that it does not believe God permits sickness or diseases but instead that anything bad is caused by sin and the devil.

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City Removes Nativity Scene From Staten Island St. George Ferry Terminal After Someone Complained

Exodus 20



4Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.



5Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;



6And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

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City Removes Nativity Scene From Staten Island St. George Ferry Terminal After Someone Complained

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The Christ is out of Christmas at the St. George Ferry Terminal.

In what Catholics see as political correctness run amok, the city Department of Transportation (DOT) has removed a Nativity scene from the terminal, with an agency spokesman saying that the display was not authorized to be there.

But a menorah, marking the celebration of Hanukkah, and a Christmas tree remain on display in the terminal.

Catholics said the move was a nightmare before Christmas. “We take this as a tremendous affront,” said Bill Donohue, president of the Catholic League, a watchdog of religious and civil rights.

The controversy reflects church-and-state battles that erupt nationwide each Christmas over the placement of religious symbols in public spaces.

A caller to the Advance today complained about the removal of the Nativity scene, which depicts the newborn Christ in the manger.

The caller said that workers in the terminal told her the display was removed after someone complained to the city’s 311 hotline
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Traditon and the God that kills so Adam isn't naked

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Traditon and the God that kills so Adam isn't naked

With the following I am beginning a new blog which moves away from the limiting tenancies of Adventism and denominationalism. For a while I will post the articles from the new blog here also. I have not decided if I will continue to cover Adventism as I have on this blog. Maybe just one more entitled : "you can't get there from here".



As we will see as this blog progresses there are so many ideas in Christianity that are simply accepted because of tradition or perhaps simply accepted because people never questioned an idea or belief. Much of them are origin ideas that color the Christians thinking in matters that range far from the original idea.


A good example of this is to be found in this comment from my article on Jimmy Swaggart’s Study Bible, the comment is as follows:


“i don't have his bible but i know from the bible that they did animal sacrifices back then.. because of God killed one.. to make there garments. thus starting the animal sacrifices because God covered them with animal so in turn they covered there sins they did and do back then till Jesus came for all.”


If one were to question the above comment they would have to ask did God actually kill an animal or animals just to make garments? Does it not take a good deal of processing before one skins an animal before that skin can be used successfully as clothing? Was this the same God who just spoke the universe into existence and now He has to kill in order to make clothes for humans? Was God really the very first being in recorded Jewish/Christian history to kill another living creature? If this was meant to be the first sacrifice why did the story not emphasize the killing as sacrifice idea rather then just making it about how God provided garments for Adam and Eve? And finally why does not any other part of the Bible reference this incident as emblematic for the sacrificial system?


Those are all very reasonable questions but I bet the writer of the above comment has not thought about even one of them. Reason is not the enemy of faith, in fact reason encourages faith because then there are reasons for the faith. The reverse however is not usually true; faith is often the enemy of reason. Because then they say if I had a reason to believe something why would I need faith. That is the problem that the traditionalist and the Fundamentalist have when they deal with what is written in the Bible. Their faith is in fact their tradition, their belief is not evidence based but tradition based, to question their tradition is to question faith in their minds. That however is not how the entire Bible lays out faith. Faith in God was based upon the multitude of stories that fill the Bible, the evidence of the Messiah, as Jesus came and lived among us. Those stories, the very pages of scripture are evidence to base ones faith upon.


Blind faith is exactly what it says, a faith that is not seen, a faith without evidence, a belief without reason. It cannot be reasonably explained to anyone it is accepted or rejected based upon nothing because it stands on nothing. As Gandhi said: “Faith... Must be enforced by reason...When faith becomes blind it dies.” Unfortunately that is not quite true because it does not die it instead becomes a vice. A more accurate quote by Ray Cove would be “If you don't have faith in your people in the field, you are lost. If that faith is blind faith, then it is not faith at all, just maladministration.” Blind faith is very problematic.


So how do we answer the traditionalist? We must take them back to their source material and ask them to explain their presuppositions. That is why this is a blog rather then simply an article. The subject is simply too vast, it is too vast for one book, with such a vast field of thought to engage in not every possible objection can be covered or every possible explanation given. Thus this is a conversation, a dialog that continues and evolves as we learn more and as we examine more implications. For our friend who believes that God was the first to kill we can answer fairly simply by going to the source. Because the Genesis story never once says that God killed an animal to make the garments for the people.


As the Exposititor’s Bible Commentary says: “The mention of the type of clothing that God made--"garments of skin [`or]," i.e., tunics--is perhaps intended to recall the state of the man and the woman before the Fall: they "were both naked [`arummim], and they felt no shame" (2:25). The author may also be anticipating the notion of sacrifice in the slaying of the animals for the making of the skin garments, though he has given no clues of this meaning in the narrative itself.”


Tunics that is coverings, it does not say animal skins that is the from the early English translations. When you look at the text and then the interlinear of the words here is what we see using the King James with the
Strong’s numbers following the word:


Adam 120, wife 802, Lord 3068, God 430, coats 3801, skins 5785, clothed 3847


When you look at the word skins 5785 we see that it includes man’s skin also:


5785  `owr (ore); from 5783; skin (as naked); by implication, hide, leather:
KJV-- hide, leather, skin.


5783 says:  `uwr (oor); a primitive root; to (be) bare: KJV-- be made naked.


It is not all that hard to see that God made tunics to cover the skin of the people and thus they were clothed. You don’t have to kill anything with such an interpretation. You don’t have to have God kill an animal and then perform a miracle to immediately make the skin usable for sewing or to become supple and move about comfortably in.


Remember “animal” is not in the Hebrew, just skins and skins can have varying meanings. It could be the cover layer of something else, wool is the covering layer of a sheep, various barks or leaves could be considered to be coverings, a snake sheds its skin, so there are other options available.


All we have is the quick aside in the story that God had seen their nakedness and covered them. God cares, He assists them even when they disobeyed He maintained their interests at heart. It is a simply line in a simple story that people want to pour so much meaning into that it eventually loses the initial meaning.


After this we have to consider what the author was trying to say. Was he trying to reference sacrifices and just did not know how to create the implication very well? Was he trying to express his idea of how God could have done things, without the conception of God that the Bible progresses through. Say for example God in his estimation could kill anything and anyone with impunity and it would not matter because God is the ultimate power and as such can do what He wants and the character…the very essence of God…how He acted and how He loves would be of little concern in his story. God cared enough to cloth them it did not matter how he did it.


We have a lot of questions and perhaps not a lot of answers. The people with all the answers like the original commenter seem to have none of the questions. They don’t know how to ascribe original meaning to the text or application to the present but they do have the answers that their traditions maintain. I prefer the method of the late A. Graham Maxwell who would constantly ask “what does this say about God”.


If that is you, stay tuned to this blog as we explore past the traditions.
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Man trapped between 4-train and platform at Union Square station

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By KEVIN SHEEHAN and MATTHEW NESTEL

A terrifying drama unfolded in a Manhattan subway station last night when a man was crushed between a train and the platform -- trapping him for at least a half hour until he could be freed.

The unidentified victim fell into an 8-inch space between a southbound No. 4 train and a movable platform extender -- which bridges wide gaps between the platform and the train on curved tracks -- in the Union Square station at 10 p.m., officials said.

The 41-year-old man -- who was in critical condition last night -- was trapped at his waistline.

Witnesses said he was conscious and yelling in agony during the ordeal, which ended only after a track worker was able to release the hydraulics that control the metal "gap filler" extension device.

BRUTAL: Rescue workers rush a man out of Union Square Station after he was crushed between a train and a movable platform extender for a half-hour.
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BRUTAL: Rescue workers rush a man out of Union Square Station after he was crushed between a train and a movable platform extender for a half-hour.

The motorman, Janice Carter, told The Post that after she brought the train to a stop, people started banging on her window and shouting that there had been an accident.

"I secured my train and came out to investigate," she said. "It was complete madness. People everywhere. I saw the man between the gap filler and the train. He was yelling."

Conductor Cornell Cumberbatch said he was shocked by what he saw.

"The train came into the station . . . I opened the doors, somebody came and told me that somebody was trapped," he told The Post.

An MTA worker, who asked that his name not be used, said it took about 20 minutes before a contractor arrived and was able to climb into a platform manhole to work on the extender's hydraulics.

After about 10 more minutes, he removed a tube from the device, releasing air pressure so the victim could be freed by cops, sources said.

The FDNY arrived about four minutes later and removed the man, the MTA worker said. Sources said that despite being crushed by the train, there was no sign of blood at the scene.

He was rushed to Bellevue Hospital but his exact injuries were unknown.

It was not clear last night why the man fell, but cops said he may have been drinking.

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Pedophile street preacher Brian David Mitchell's hymn-singing crazy act didn't play with a Utah jury

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By JEANE MacINTOSH

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Pedophile street preacher Brian David Mitchell's hymn-singing crazy act didn't play with a Utah jury, which yesterday convicted him in the 2002 kidnapping and repeated rape of Elizabeth Smart.

The 12-member federal panel rejected defense claims that Mitchell, 57, was insane. Instead, it unanimously found him guilty of kidnapping and taking a minor across state lines for sex.

The verdict -- which came after just five hours of deliberation -- brought a quick smile from Smart, 23, as it was read.

"Today is a wonderful day," the "thrilled" and glowing Smart said.

She had testified that Mitchell's diabolical scheme was fueled by sex, drugs and alcohol -- and not by a religious message from God, as he claimed.

In court yesterday, Mitchell, sporting long hair and a wild, unruly beard, sat with his eyes closed, singing a religious hymn.

Mitchell faces possible life in prison when he is sentenced May 25.

Smart was 14 when Mitchell took her at knifepoint from her Salt Lake City bedroom in June 2002.

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Brooklyn mom shot in face, clinging to life

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By KEVIN SHEEHAN, ANNAIS MORALES and HEATHER HADDON

She was shot for the son who slipped away.

A loving mother who was devoted to helping Haiti was shot in the face yesterday by a thug searching for her troubled son, who desperately pleaded to her to run away from the gunman standing outside the family home.

"He said, ‘Don’t open the door, don’t open the door,’" said Pierre Fougere, 30, the victim’s oldest son and a security guard at MOMA.

But it was too late.

Marie Fougere, a 51-year-old nurse with a classy sense of style, was fighting for her life after she was savagely shot at least once in the face. The bullet traveled through her chin, down her neck and into her shoulder, according to members of the tight-knit Haitian family.

The house where church-going mom Mary Fouger was shot.
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The house where church-going mom Mary Fouger was shot.

"She is a caring, peaceful woman. She doesn’t deserve this," said her oldest son, through tears.

The tall, attractive woman worked long hours as a nurse’s aide at the Coler-Goldwater Specialty Hospital on Roosevelt Island, while devoting herself to volunteer work at the Salem Missionary Baptist Church in her free time. After the earthquake, she helped make sure donations flowed to those who needed them most.

"She was very instrumental in connecting us in people us with people in Haiti," said James Thornton, the church pastor.

Fougere’s younger son, Mac, was known to run with a bad crowd and keep several girlfriends. Fighting among his crew had resulted in two shootings the previous week, said Maxime Fougere, 51, the victim’s husband.

"I don’t think it was a robbery. This was someone coming over for something," he said. "The person knows Mac’s bedroom."

At around 11 p.m., Fougere was home making soup with her family in their two-family home on Avenue M and East 93rd Street, in Canarsie. Her younger son was downstairs when he heard a rap on his bedroom window, with the shooter looming outside. The gunman then marched down the alley next to the tidy, brick home and pounded on the side door.

Fougere came down the wooden stairs to answer. Her son screamed for to her to stop, but the gunman shot at the door three times with a large-gauge gun, blowing out the diamond-shaped window in the door.

Fougere was rushed to Brookdale University Hospital, where doctors were attempting to stabilize her, family members said. She opened her eyes once and squeezed her husband’s hand, but was in critical condition. She was to undergo emergency surgery yesterday, with family members keeping vigil at her bedside.

"To see something like this happen to my mother, it kills me inside," her eldest son said.

Fougere was supposed to attend a holiday missionary luncheon at church yesterday, and members were shocked when they heard about the shooting.

"I was absolutely devastated," Thornton said. "She had a great personality."

Police sources said the shooter was looking for Fougere’s youngest son, Mac. When police questioned him, the man flew into a rage, screaming and yelling that he wanted to go see his mother, they said.

Police recovered three, .45-caliber bullets at the scene. No arrests had been made as of yesterday.

With Doug Auer

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